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Matthew Birt  says:

Nicky Hayden confident Ducati can cure understeer issue

Nicky Hayden remains confident Ducati can solve a persistent understeer issue that has dogged the Desmosedici MotoGP project in recent years. The understeer issue was a constant complaint of Valentino Rossi during his disastrous two-year stint with Ducati, which ended in him walking out to sign a new deal with Yamaha for 2013 and 2014. Hayden believes Ducati made some progress in...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

In answer to your questions BB

On a couple of occasions Burgess mentioned Rossi was struggling mentally with his mid pack positions and found it very disheartening. 'Trying' of course is all relative. How often in the past has Rossi been required to ride to his maximum 100% ability? I would suggest very rarely indeed in his glory years. Has he done so this year? I don't think so. Did he try to 2011? His crash rate would suggest so. Our three Aliens have hung it all out this year riding the razors edge all the way. At EUR18 million you'd think Corse deserved a bit more effort from Rossi rather than crashing through attention loss at Laguna.

Rossi in his own words relished the thought of the Ducati challenge. A raw proper GP prototype motorcycle. Something that stirred memories of his 500cc years. He felt he could adapt and tame it. Quite simply he couldn't.

Due to tyres in the main 2010 & 2011 were Ducati's worst years. Stoner is on record as saying when he and Gabbarini found the narrow set-up window the Ducati was a very good motorcycle. Rossi and Burgess never found this window for themselves.

I've stated it a dozens of times before. Yes the Ducati is probably behind the M1 and RCV but Rossi made it look a damn sight worse than what it really is. All machines have their relative strengths and weakness. It's up to the rider to mitigate those issues. The HRC boys managed it with their severe chatter. Why couldn't Rossi with his understeer? Well, I know the answer to that rhetorical question - talent limitation.

In some ways we still don't know the relative merits of the current Duke. Only a true Alien can push to the 'eenth degree and get the best from a bike. But what I do know is Stoner won on it when difficult, and Dani won on the RCV when it handled like a pig early 2010. Rossi's won nothing on a difficult motorcycle.

Our current situation may, as I believe, simply be that three riders are that much better than all the rest. A situation brought into sharp focus by the failure of Rossi, which due to his previous stature manifests public & most journo opinion in the (unfair) blaming of Ducati.  I truly believe the goalposts have been moved beyond the skill level of Valentino and just about all the rest. Although MM will almost certainly make the leap.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Sm - you're a child in the sand pit

Kicking sand at others. Only problem (for you) is the wind blows it all back in your own eyes.

Got any thing to say about motorcycle road racing? Nah, didn't think so, it's all a bit beyond a bloke who can't tell one Aussie Josh from another.Twat.

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acanada46

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acanada46 says:

nostro

i find it amusing how your hate of rossi has turned you into a blubbering baboon...if rossi is fighting for the title next season your look like a right twat..

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supermario

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supermario says:

Wooooooooooooooooooooh!!!!!

Looks like someones got her knickers in a twist. Again.

Tell me nostro, do the words "dish it but can't take it" mean anything to you? No? Howabout hypocrite?

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supermario

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supermario says:

acanada

it won't take until next season for nostro to look "a right twat". He IS a right twat.

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supermario

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supermario says:

"Got any thing to say about motorcycle road racing?"

Ok big brain, lets see what you've got. Say something about roadracing which is neither ridiculously scathing of Valentino Rossi and filled with hatred and bitterness towards the guy, nor anything viewed through orange specs and ridiculously biased about casey stoner to the point that you can't speak because you've got his balls in your mouth.

If you manage to do it nostro, it will've been for the very first time!

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Wosi old lad

Fkin hell Bulto..we swap banter and stats month in year out, trying to make sense of it all

That's where we're going wrong, trying to make any sense out of it....  but I was just trying to make you feel better, suggesting that the Duke isn't really in as bad a shape as your boy left it....  :tongue:  now Nicky Nitro is leading development direction...  :wink:

Better day today for Hayden as he's gone quicker by almost a second trying different chassis with Iannone not far behind. Still difficult to draw anything really conclusive at this stage though

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buelligan272

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buelligan272 says:

conclusive bulto?

I will tell you what is conclusive.The Ducati is still sooooo bad it cannot beat a superbike!
Laverty did a 1'40"185.


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CH987

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CH987 says:

16th  Andrea Dovizioso   Ducati     Time 1:48.516  Diff  8.331   
 

Ah that's why it's been so quiet on here.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Buelli are you married to the Janitor?

As suspected SM has nothing worthwhile to say about MotoGP other than "Rossi's nuts are yellow and I can get them both in my wizened little gob at once" and you me old string vest wearer seem oblivious to the fact a Pirelli qualifier is good for one flying lap only.

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