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Speeding

Perhaps if the Government's approach to speeding (and road safety in general) was somewhat less cynical then so would ours be.   

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Having just completed a SA course, I initially thought that there was going to be a lot of conflict around a lot of the statements detailed below.

In reality this did not happen and it was very eye opening (and harrowing), to see some of the damage that can be done to riders and pedestrians with just a few miles an hour over the limit.

I personnaly have driven much slower in the built up (30mph) areas, post course and I do not see this changing. I think if more drivers and riders did the course without the penalty overhead, speed (and associated accidents and injuries), would drop across the board.

Unfortunately, high speed morons will always be morons whether they are fined or trained.

Also......

.....I probably would speed less if we did not have really stupid people on here like sundayroast who has to be employed by the speed awareness people.

This is because, My wife has just completed one of these courses, 35mph in a 30mph limit, in a car not bike, and she said it was a complete waste of time, the only thing they were really interested in was getting you to pay the £85 asap.

How can it be road safety when if you pay you get let off the points? this makes the case even stronger that it is about raising cash if nothing else does.

SundaySpud reckons that if you speed then we are morons, well mate welcome to the biggest load of morons on one website, wake up a smell the coffee, Speed on its own is NOT the cause of accidents, it's talking on your phone or generally not looking where the fuck your going. As i have said before, if speed was the main factor, then how come most of europe is not dead then? they have Autobahns with no speed limits, your arguement out of the window!

speeding

Sorry Homer but most countries in Europe do have a speed limit and i believe that only two have a recomendation about   exceeding  it, Germany and Italy. tho i stand to be corrected.  most speed limits are equal to 75 mph.. Their KSI's are worse than ours.

When it comes to deaths and KSi's on bikes it looks that inappropriate speed is the problem. Too fast entering corners/ bends  [ not nec. exceeding the NSL speeds limit of a country road but just to fast,]. The other problem is inappropriate overtaking and that usually unvolves overtaking using speed in excess of the speed limit, usually ends up in head on or a loss of control due to avoiding  oncoming other vehicles.

There are good courses and bad ones, not all are the same. 

One insurer Admiral is now putting up premiums for anyone who has been on a course asto them  its tantamount to a confession of guilt for speeding.  [ one has to agree that one committed the offence to get off with a course rather than a fine and points.  Thats not arguable ita private matter and up to the insurers so one has to notify them by law. otherwise ones insurance will or may become invalid.

Maybe that threat will calm people down.  Speeding in general is just neglegence or apathy and complacency and needs a wake up call.

By 2014 all residential streets will probably be 20 mph and arterial roads may stay at 30 or be reduced to 30  .As most accidents happen in towns and within 5 miles of home, tho not usually fatal they are more common and arecosting the health service and insurances a lot of monies.  Maybe with a 20 mph limit there will be more time to see a motorcycle approaching and avoid it.

Lets all ride 125s or Enfields shall we.

Sorry.....

.....forgot to mention 125's or Enfields.....fine if thats what floats your boat but mine is a bitt larger than that and goes slightly quicker.

I have toured in France and Spain and one thing is a dead cert, they can drive cars better over there than we do over here, come off the feery at Portsmouth or Poole and it's not long until you realise your back in blighty, the driving standards over here are shite.