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Agree with ninjachica,

spot on there.

I'm not able to cut down trees any more, but I've always apologised to any tree I've cut down. It's just to be on the safe side, specially if it's an Elder tree. Same as I tell my bees anything that's happening to me or the family. All superstition, I'm sure, but no harm in the old ways, unlike the sort of so called Pagans that vulcanrider's worried about. They sound like nutters to me too.

This is my take on pagans also

the guy we know in Portugal is HA (red & white) certainly not a robe wearing chanting type but has the pagan belief re the planet and it's sources. The cretins in Cornwall have indeed latched onto something to give credence to their vile behaviours nad I really am worried for my brother going up against them.

Scum

My friends son was being groomed by this b*stard before he got caught...

Michie (53), of Vale Gardens, Penkridge, was sentenced to three-and-a half-years at Wolverhampton Crown Court yesterday after being convicted of three charges of indecent assault and one of attempted indecent assault on two scouts aged 12 and 13.

Bachelor Michie was ordered to register as a sex offender for life and was also disqualified from working with children for life. At the time of his arrest Michie was the man in charge of the movement in Staffordshire. He was also headmaster of Collingwood Junior School in Bushbury, Wolverhampton.

This was the vicar in my mum's village...
Vicar downloads kiddie porn




Don't trust anyone with your kids.

I'm a Pagan

so you can take these comments with that in mind.

"Paganism" as described by the media (especially Daily Fail) does not really exist. Pagan means 'of the Pagaini (rural folk in Latin)' and is a category created during the transition of the Roman empire under Constantine to a Christian one. Christianity was an urabn religion, the rural folk kept the old beliefs - hence Pagans. The Saxon Word Heathan means the same thing.

Pagansim is mostly used as a category. It would be like calling all Jews, Muslims, Christians, and Toaists "Churchists" because they all have a formal church (or equivalent) lead organisation.

Pagan as used by the media here refers to Druids (who have religious leaders), and Heathans (or Odinists, people who follow the Saxon / Norse religion) who do not have a church or religious leadership, and Celts (whose beleifs are little known because they were destroyed by Romans and Saxons and Christians) and the few reamining Olympians (who no longer have much of a formal church system).

There is no 'Pagan' text I am aware of that validates child abuse. Reference to Pagan leaders of old also means talking about morality in 900AD - not a time when Christianity can claim any high ground.

Alester Crowley was a self-appointed religious leader, but that doesn't give him the right to speak for any religion but his own; he is no Pagan leader.

As for the OP - "Pagan Rituals" means neo-Druidism. Lumping every pagan into this category is false, just like calling all Christians Catholics. Heathans have no specific rituals - and members are not compelled to do anything for thier Gods (who, they view, largely ignore humanity).

Most Druids work hard to keep alive a few traditions that Christianity did not adopt for itself (as it did with Imbolc and Yule = Cristmans [Jesus was NOT born in December], Samhain = Hallowe'en, Easter [Eostre=Heathan goddess of fertility, hence Easter Eggs]); such as summer and winter solstices.

No doubt, a tiny few use anything they can as a cover for their own vile behaviour - a recent debates with musilim groomers, Rasputin's orgies, the Mansun family, and so on. None of which has anything at all to do with their religion.

Wiccan

Wiccan came from Witch-craft or Hedge-witches. This means herbalists and healers, not water poisoning women who should be burned at the stake.

Wicca is generally a female religion, though has some male followers; and many female teens who do it as a goth-lite or desire to be different (maybe why some men get involved?).

The problme with the reporting for pagans is often the same for bikers. White-bread-suburban readers like to know about degenerates and scary different people being caught for their behaviour. Thus, like biker, pagan is often dropped into the article without any real relevance to the story.