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Matthew Birt  says:

HRC boss content with 2012 despite title defeat

Honda boss Shuhei Nakamoto has said he is happy with the performance of the official HRC factory MotoGP squad in 2012, despite losing the world title to Yamaha and Jorge Lorenzo. After dominating the final 800cc world championship in 2011 when Casey Stoner won 10 races, the smart money was on HRC being the factory to beat in the new 1000cc...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Reading between the lines

what Nakamoto San is really saying....'If DORNA weren't such meddling cocks determined to hinder HRC by inventing last minute & mid season reg's in a futile endeavour to promote their chosen one, we would've had a clean sweep of all three titles."

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Lorenzo99

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Lorenzo99 says:

Rule Changes

    The rules should never be changed mid season,period.Unfair to all involved & for what reason than to seek to unbalance or re balance the championship.

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Ivebeenthehero

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HRC won't win in 2013 either

Agree, last minute rule changes are not on. But think Honda will have more difficulties than that next season - I don't think they have a potential champion in their stable. I think Pedrosa found some speed with the arrival of Casey, but he'll struggle to find that final edge against Val and Jorge.  

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

I think JLo will be a worried man over winter. Dani owned him for the second half of the season and were it not for being taken out would more than likely have won the title..............and now Vale's back in the stable which brings a different kind of pressure. It'll be a long off-season for the Man from Majorca imo.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Dearest Nostro

agreed mid-season changes are unacceptable but would you really prefer to see an HRC/Repsol domination as per the Doohanesque era when MotoGP was reduced to high-speed demonstrations with predictable results or would you rather see 'real' racing where the outcome can never be predicted.  Another cynical and biased post from you kicking off this discussion,

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Saturn

But i guess it's ok when Vale was 'doing the predictable'? Jeez you're predictable.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Pacey

I don't think I mentioned Rossi -  I was asking if predictable high-speed demonstrations were preferable to close and unpredictable results. Which would  you rather see.   I don't think Dorna always think things through but they are trying their best to put on an exciting show.    Easy to criticise from armchairs but not so easy to strike successful formats.    Thanks for last weeks discussions by the way .

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

You had no need to mention Vale bud. We all know where you stand.

I grew up watching motorcycle races. If i wanted to watch a show then i'd watch 'a show'. We live in an 'XFactor' era which i may not like but i equally accept. But it 'aint right imo.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

I also grew up watching

Motorcycle racing and  that's what I want - racing - I don't want to see one rider from one factory clearing off into the distance week in and week out no matter who it is.  My love of bike racing started in the late fifties with John Surtees and I'll tell you what  the most boring era's belong to Agostini and Doohan. 

Different winners - different machines.  Moto2, Moto3 World Supers and British Supers all deliver that.   MotoGP which should be the pinacle of everything bike is the least exciting.  IMO that is.   :biggrin:

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vtwinmark

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vtwinmark says:

If a manufacturer has the innovation and ability to piss off into the distance, then so be it.....the onus should be for the rest to close the gap, not sit on their arses waiting for the organisers to penalise anyone that may be a bit too quick, in a tall poppy sort of mentality.

We are not seeing 'pure racing' but a contrived leveling out of varying talents to suit a wider, less knowledgeable audience.

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