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got a thread at the top of the list which says = dec2612-2012-MOTOGP-MOMENTS-DUCATI-DISASTER  - I can't get into it - first I was asked for a password and now it's an inernal server error 500. ???   Is this you MCN ??

Thanks RedRacer

Had a few problems  lately and as it asked for a password thought I might have been hacked.

Needed or not?

If it discourages one rider from pushing another to the edge of the track at 180mph along a straight, or discourages a rider from deliberately using another as a berm in a corner and punting them into the gravel, then it could be deemed plausible.

But measures already exist to deal with that type of thing. If necessary the FIM can ban a rider for as many races as deemed fit, or throw them to the back of the grid for as many races as they see fit, if they ar perceived to have ridden recklessly or deliberately tried to shove another rier off track

So is there any need for a new rule?

With the way it reads, that the penalties won't be carried over into next season, imagine the last race and a title showdown. A couple of points seperate the two riders gunning for it, rider A being 2 ahead of rider B. Whoever finishes in front wins the title. Rider A deliberately (albeit subjectively...) takes rider B out of the race. He gets 10 penalty points which means a ban, effective next race. But wait, there isn't a next race, so there is no penalty and rider A wins the title.

The new rules will have no affect on that....

The current system has sufficient rules to deal with whatever happens on track, if the FIM have the balls to use them. This is more meddling for no gain

poxy rule?

Rizlagixxer says he can't believe the new rule, it should be about racing.

OK Ritz get out there and race, if someone pushes you off the track to get you out of the way are you gonna think thats racing? you were in front and he couldn't get past so he rams you, kills you, puts you in a wheelchair, sends you to la la land for the rest of your days, thats all OK is it.                                                                     Thats not racing in my book, thats dangerous riding and the sport could do without it. Shits who ride like that need locking up, sometimes natural justice comes along and takes them away before they hurt others but if it doesn't they need dealing with. If you want to see that kind of crap go watch a bullfight or take up foxhunting and leave racing to those who appreciate watching skill and talent. 

A good ruler has an iron fist in a velvet glove

An interesting string of comments. Bulto sagely touches on the Capirossi / Harada incident to display how potentially farcical this rule could be.

Is it going to affect the racing? Highly unlikely. How many of the top guys ride dirty? Even old Rossi has only pulled four or five highly questionable passes in his entire career. And as so amply displayed at San Marino this year starting fast guys from the back of the grid is courting even more potential disaster and making the racing less safe - which is ostensibly what Dorna and the F.I.M are trying to avoid?!

Yes O.K MM brings a record with him (as Simoncell did before him) to the premier class. However much race direction have got things wrong in the past I feel the status quo of their judgement with time or placing deductions to be the most suitable penalty - even if the indiscretion occured in practice as Marquez' tend to do!

Mandy. All I know about F1 is that Ezpeleta and Eccelstone were once co-joined garden gnome twins separated in body, but not in spirit. Cars don't lean - and by virtue this makes them (and their drivers) way less cool and exciting than bikes and bike racers.