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Matthew Birt  says:

2012 MOTOGP MOMENTS – CASEY STONER RETIRES

When Casey Stoner won the Jerez and Estoril races to ignite the defence of his MotoGP crown, talk of his retirement was already filling plenty of column inches. The Aussie was at pains to deny the speculation was true, so when the media filed into the pre-event press conference ahead of the Le Mans race in France, only those in...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Ssshh..

..casey who?

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

He will be sorely missed like him or hate him Casey is one fantastic talent it has been a pleasure to watch him race.

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ColonelClaw

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ColonelClaw says:

Fastest

Casey is by some distance the fastest bike rider I have ever seen. Some of the stuff he did on a MotoGP bike seemed to bend the laws of physics. Unfortunately the guy had almost no race-craft that I could ever detect. He just got on the bike and rode it so fast he would either win, shag the tyres, or go way past the bike's performance envelope and crash. He should have retired a 5-times world champion at least. He is the defining proof that to be an all-time great you need more than speed, but instead the record books will merely have him down as a double world champion. Nothing wrong with that for most of us mere mortals, but for his talent he should have done far better.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

wosi

I think it could be that young buck toothed fella from down under i'm thinking? Word has it that he was the fastest out there in his time aboard a factory bike. Heck, some folk even say he won more races than that there Rossi chap, had more podiums and that included spending twice as long on some apparent shitpig of a motorsickle! Nowt as queer as folk. 

 

'cc'.................agreed bud. 

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yzrm1

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yzrm1 says:

the best?

2006 nothing. 2007 well we all know why. 2008 nothing. 2009 nothing. 2010 nothing. 2011 honda was the only one with a new bike. 2012 nothing.

if your child would perform like that at school...........

 

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

if your child would perform like that at school...........

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I'd be more than happy.  

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Utter utter tosh Colonel Claw

Well not the speed bit that's pretty much a given for the MotoGP generation when a rider of Lorenzo's calibre says just that.

But a lack of race craft? Nobody wins 45 GP's all around the world in all kinds of conditions whilst lacking racecraft or set-up skills.  Blinding speed is but only one facet of Stoner's racing armoury.

Perhaps you need to re-watch Laguna 2011, Valencia 2011 or Mugello 2009, to give just a few examples.

That's one of the problems with the yellow bellies. They begrudgingly pay Stoner the speed compliment in this sloppy entirely untrue backhanded manner. As if Rossi was the only rider ever to possess racecraft.

Should Stoner have won more titles? Again very easy to say he should until the circumstances are considered. One of the two most competitive eras in modern GP racing history with four of those years spent on what most consider to be the least able of the factory machines (and don't give me that huge speed advantage shit for 2007, that lasted little more than one GP, with the pendulum of advantage swinging back towards the far nimbler Yamaha's). 2008, Ducati never gave him the CF bike he wanted mid season - Stoner has always considered the pipe frame bike to be pretty awful. 2009 could've been a title until struck down by his debilitating lactose intolerance. 2010 being the pinnacle of the notoriously difficult hard 'n' cold 'stones, which the Ducati struggled with more than the others. 2012, lady luck and a banged up ankle when he was very much in the title hunt.

Again a cheap shot dismissing the reality of some brilliant opposition and a sub standard steed. But hey, you stick with your delusions CC if they make you feel better. Reality has never been a feature of an Oompa Loompa's thinking.

 

 

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

nostro

Again a cheap shot dismissing the reality of some brilliant opposition and a sub standard steed. But hey, you stick with your dillusions CC if they make you feel better. Reality has never been a feature of an Oompa Loompa's thinking.

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'cc's first two sentences more than applauded Stoner. His comments re-more titles, racecraft etc are valid to a degree imo.

Your beef should be with 'yzrm1', a typical blinkered fan(?) if ever there was one.

 

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eddl

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eddl says:

I would like to point out whilst casey was aboard the duke it wasn't an uncompetitive bike therefore you can't use that as a reason for a lack of more titles aboard the duke, his win's on this bike are proof of the fact it was COMPETITIVE.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

eddl

The Duke was always competitive just not quite as competitive as others in my view. It was always in the running. It only appeared to be 'uncompetitive' when someone failed massively to deliver.

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