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Matthew Birt  says:

2012 MOTOGP MOMENTS – CASEY STONER RETIRES

When Casey Stoner won the Jerez and Estoril races to ignite the defence of his MotoGP crown, talk of his retirement was already filling plenty of column inches. The Aussie was at pains to deny the speculation was true, so when the media filed into the pre-event press conference ahead of the Le Mans race in France, only those in...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Racecraft..

I think we all know what the Claw & PC are getting at..it's just some are blinded by the cross dressing urge to wear orange panties over their eyes. 

2007 & 08 the bike was the best out there..2009 it was a force. It's just that Casey fked up.

Laguna 2008 started it. Crashing while leading the subsequent two races fried his brain.

 

2009..he was doing good until that barmy wet tyre choice at Donington, a sickcy burp and barramundi fishing.

2012..leading the title race, his ego got the better of him and he threw away 20pts racing his team mate, crashing on the second to last corner.

The pressure told and he fked up the very next race..AGAIN..then wrote himself off pointlessly, trying too hard too soon in qualifying.

Stoner made too many of the same errors. Weak under pressure.

His lazy attitude cost him this year - he mistook it for being cheeky - and having a kid gave him the excuse to bail before he disintegrated.

His fans talk about him as if he were a myth. The reality is..he had the best bike this year and was the red hot favourite, but got trounced.

No fairytale ending..Sorry!

 

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yzrm1

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yzrm1 says:

lazy rider stoner

 

Stoner never prepared enough. you can't setup a bike with only 3,4 laps.

if you say he that good....he should have, could have, would have, won more titles but : Lazy may refer to: Laziness, a lack of desire to expend effort;

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

YZRM1

Stoner never prepared enough. you can't setup a bike with only 3,4 laps.

You can't  -  he could and showed it on many occassions

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Couldn't stop whining about the chatter Dani dealt with though, could he?

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Racecraft

Overused term

Subjective at best, meaningless at worst.

Stoner raced to win races - that's what racing is. to go out and beat everyone else on the grid. If you want your name on a title at the end of the year and in the record books you can achieve that without winning a single race.

As a spectator I want to see someone ride the balls of a bike, wring its neck and twist it into submission (or the gravel trying) I want to see the bike bucking and weaving, sliding, drifting and whatever else they can make it do. Only settle for second if the guy in first is just too quick to catch. Settling for second because you don't want to get into a scrap in case you bin it, thinking of the championship - it's hardly wheel to wheel racing.

As someone who has competed for many years, I get enjoyment from watching professional do what I can only dream of, in any discipline of bike sport, or cars. Stoner provides that. Lorenzo rode superbly this year but who would I pay money to watch just ripping a bike around a track?

Only one.

Watching Stoner two wheel drift at PI this year - both wheels on the kerb ffs, and then letting it continue drifting onto the track with just a subtle change in body weighting and position - or watching him throw it over the kerb at Woodcote, Silverstone last year, both wheels off the ground -  was about as good as it gets.

Who wins the tiles, who gets their names into record books  - who cares

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Same old drum Wosi

Couldn't stop whining about the chatter Dani dealt with though, could he?

Pedrosa also 'moaned' about it until the end of the season - so did the boss of HRC. Both riders dealt with it as they had no choice

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RidgeRacerHRC

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lazy rider??

2 world titles in 7 years of motogp?? not bad for being lethargic eh yzmr?

 

 

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simoncbr1000rr

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the difference

stoner could ride anything to the limit and win......and as rossi demonstrated on the bike stoner had got off and won on....rossi was not capable of filling stoner`s boots in the pure talent dept to take an inferior machine beyond it`s ability and win......as a prevoius post says it` s about winning race, not bits of silver for grandma`s mantlepiece....a head to head on same bikes rossi vs lorenzo vs stoner?????.......stoner would win

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Botsboy

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Botsboy says:

Tiger Woods of racing?

It doesn't matter whether you liked him or not, whether his obvious dislike of attention or his sometimes off the mark comments, irritated. He brought the spectators in. A race with Stoner was always exciting.

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Wosi, do me a favour..

"Stoner made too many of the same errors. Weak under pressure." The reason why he made the errors he did, was because he constantly took the bikes he was riding to the limit and beyond, something Rossi wasn't prepared to do..

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