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Matthew Birt  says:

2012 MOTOGP MOMENTS – DUCATI DISASTER

It’s the Valencia MotoGP test in November, 2010 and the wave of optimism sweeping through Ducati’s factory garage is so powerful it could almost knock you off your feet. Valentino Rossi has arrived to prove the bike was no one-hit wonder in the hands of Casey Stoner and help restore Ducati as a potent threat to the Japanese domination of MotoGP. Two...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

The "eye-watering expense"..is a myth..

Ducati spent next to nothing.. bcause they brought nothing to the table.

Preziosi had too much control and took it personally that Rossi didn't like his bike. He chose to dig his heels in rather than change 'til it was too late..

It is doubtful he had new ideas anyway judging by his embarrassing - nay..masochistic last gasp meeting with Furusawa.

He'll have his hands full dealing with the monocoque Panigale's defficiencies next year..time for some new blood.

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simoncbr1000rr

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oh dear vale

......what`s that?........the duke is a superior bike and you`ll fix it straight away cos casey can`t develop or ride as good as you......can u repeat that again as i couldn`t hear cos casey was saying something  about he won 20 odd on it

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Jeez Wosi - April 1st is 4 months away

Ducati spent next to nothing.... Get the frigging blinkers off.

Half a dozen frames in 2 seasons

Rossi cost Ducati millions:

His monumental salary

All proceeds from the sale of Ducati / VR46 merchandise kept exclusively to himself

It's all cost.

More new parts and frames than the previous 4 years

Cast your mind back to 2010 - the boast from the dynamic duo that all the GP10 needed was setting up properly because the current encumbent was too lazy and too stupid to do it. A couple of laps into the first Valencia test and the goat realised that maybe he'd made a small error of judgement.

After a miserable start to 2011 and failing completely to find a set-up with the GP11, after testing the GP12 he convinced Ducati that he needed that frame to turn the bike around. He got it. No improvement. They than told Ducati that the material was at fault and required it made out of aluminium not CF. They got it - no improvement. They convinced Ducati that they needed a Yamaha style swingarm to improve the bike. They got it - no improvement. He then convinced Ducati they needed an alloy perimeter frame and mid-season tested a new one for the 2012 GP12 at Jerez. He was reported to be "grinning like a cheshire cat" following that test with claims of being close to Stoner's lap time on the new 1000 Honda.

Following that test he gave Ducati his legendary feedback with ideas on how to improve this new bike. He got his wish and a new version was rolled out in end of season testing and he pronounced himself very happy with it. Next test and he was back to moaning like hell about it, despite it being what he asked for. He asked for another chassis and got it for Qatar and we all know what happened there. Despite having everything he asked for he had a public tantrum and the public blaming of Ducati began -

"this bike is unrideable, it is no better than last year's years and can't be improved with set up. I'm not an engineer, Ducati need to fix it"

Ducati then made him use Hayden's settings following Jerez when Hayden qualified 3rd and Rossi 14th - and all of a sudden his results improved...

Still Ducati were looking for direction from VR / JB but by now the pairing was lost and hadn't a clue what to do with the bike, VR admitting as much more than once. The blame was now all on Ducati.

Another frame followed, more swingarm variants and we had the "result" at Mugello (in reality, a result born out of hours of testing) Next race normal service resumed and the new frame offered no improvement.

Is that what you mean by spending nothing and bringing nothing to the table ?? or was the latter part of that statement intended for the development geniuses.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Did i miss last years.......

........''2011 MOTOGP MOMENTS-DUCATI DISASTER''????????

 

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yzrm1

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yzrm1 says:

???????

boltoboy!! Rossi was riding the frameless bike carbon. then it became aluminium. they try aluminium or any other metal for the swing arm but didnt work. then the real frame and an broken ecu!!

so thats 2 different frames an swingarm and an broken ecu. you dont have to defend ducati, Casey said it him self "I didnt get S#!t from ducati, at honda i get it all" Rossi and burgess say it. we could all whitness it, and it was nothing. wosi is right. and pilipo had TIME enough!! it wasn't harsh... it is honest!

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

One hit wonder with Stoner more like a one man bike what Casey can only ride and Rossi taking the piss out of him and those taunts hit him where it hurt.

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carcleanerboy

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Reality time

Its not really about stoner verses Rossi is it? Its the might of the Japanese with their clinical nature ,against the small passionate italian company with their stubborn Leader Preziosi. Why hire one of two best riders in the world,(both stoner and Rossi) then ignore their feed back. Philippe made his own sword, and then fell on it

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simoncbr1000rr

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agreed yamahaGYTR

......but the ducati might be a a bike only a god can ride........i can feel wosi hammering the keyboard already lol

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

yzrM1

Your next task is to defend Caseys 23 wins aboard the Duke to Vales 0.

Take as long as you like, no-ones listening.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

ccb

Had Casey stayed aboard the Duke in 2011 would you have bet your mortgage that he'd not win a single race bud? I'm just curious.

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