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I don't think anyone who has won 2 premier class titles has been forgotten in the past or is likely to be forgotten in the future. Winning 38 premier class races, currently the fourth most premier class wins ever, which is likely to remain imo among the top ten for race wins for all time, is also (again imo) unlikely to be forgotten. It is also unlikely that it will be forgotten that stoner  won ducati's only title while that remains the case, and a first requirement for his memory to fade would seem to be for someone else to at least win a race for ducati.

It will obviously always be the case that rossi won many more titles than stoner. Unfortunately for you rossi and stoner appear to be inextricably linked, as this and other current threads once again demonstrate, and it will likely also (once again imo) always be remembered in the context of rossi that stoner won 23 races and a title for ducati to rossi's 0 race wins and 0 titles for them.

Hmm greatness then

Rossi 2001 to 2005 the same age as Stoner in timeline five world titles in five years, 500cc 990cc 4 stroke and two different manufacturers, 51 race wins by the age of 27 (and 125 and 250 championships earlier) Stoner two world titles in 800 cc and 38 race wins (no titles in lower classes. Define greatness again?? and yes Rossi was the one they all feared too..

CCB

You're now being just plain silly

2000 - 2006 (not 2001 - 2005) Rossi had the benefit of being on a bike at least equal to that of any other and usually better. Clear no.1 status at Yamaha and he was far younger than any of his main opponents who were all on their way out rather than up.

BUT, he did what he did, made the best use of the bikes given to him and beat whoever he raced against - he's not to account who was in Motogp at the time, although in later years we would see him try to dictate that he didn't have a team mate of equal status/ability or that team mate get equal equipment (a mark of fair play and true greatness - trying to stack the odds...)

Stoner from 2006 spent one year on a second rate bike with second rate tyyres, then spent the next 4 years on a bike no-one else could podium or put on pole, never mind win races and a championship.

Hardly a like for like comparison is it.

Lorenzo is a far more complete rider for those reasons and so was/ Rossi

He's a far more complete rider whjen it suits the argument - not too long ago he was being labelled as having no fight because he allowed Pedrosa to run away with race wins  -  there is so much hypocisy and bollocks on this site. And when have you ever seen Rossi settle for second - he'll ram someone off the track rather than take second ffs.

When people look in the record books it will say Rossi 9x world champion , Stoner 2 x world Champion, no one will give too shit about his number of race wins.

Only in the minds of people who give a shit about that sort of thing. How many people will look back and remember the way Stoner rode that Ducati, or the way he drifted a bike around PI - Ducati or Honda - leaving you shaking your head in disbelief at what he was doing. Both wheels on the kerb with the bike sideways, jumping the bike across the kerb at Silverstone during quali in 2011 while on full lean - how many instances can you recall of Rossi or Lorenzo forcing a bike like he did - titles? so what.

Hmm bulto

and all the other Orange thong wavers in here, you cant have it all ways up. Did Rossi not beat Stoner in 08 ,09 and 010 0verall??? i thought so. So delete your only beat old men argument. Are you saying the Ducati held him back then?? ( because i have stated many times that it did) because if thats the case, it also back up my argument that the bike is a sack of shit that only Casey could ride and has nothing to do with him being past it. To me and many others Rossi's career far outshine casey's and that is,nt twisting anything, its stating fact. and the only reason your all arguing back is because the truth hurts. Stoner a genius no doubt but a flawed one.

does not compute pute pute

i think car cleaner is a fembot or something , never seen anyone post so many comments with the exact same message but the sentences switched around to make it appear different. whats more is the comments are the opposite to what the pros who worked with casey are all saying on these very threads. you seem to have far too many opinions bro and very selective facts to try make your opinions look feasible. i bet you a bunch if vale had more wins than casey during there time together that stat would be one of your faves eh.....cheers.