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Matthew Birt  says:

Casey Stoner memories: Chris Richardson

In the third part of MCN’s exclusive series of Stoner memories, Stoner’s former LCR mechanic Chris Richardson recalls his first encounter with the supremely talented Aussie. “My first year with Lucio (Cecchinello) was in 2002 and they just said this Australian guy was going to be doing his first year in Grand Prix with the team. But I’d not really heard of...

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princeofrepsol

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Bultoboy

"Out of interest, how many of Rossi's crew can you name, or Lorenzo's, or Pedrosa's?"

Wosi can name Alex Briggs because he subscribes to his twitter feed. Hahaha

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

greatness of stoner

Posterity will decide whther he is great. Definitely not as great as rossi, doohan, hailwood and several others imo.

However, what's with "only" 2 titles? He has "only" won 38 races as well. He has not won as many titles as rossi and was never going to win anything like 7 however long he rode, but this does not mean his achievements are negligible, which seems to be the predominant argument at the root of all the argy-bargy, leading to the statistical arguments in stoner's favour, which are not very difficult to generate.  

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carcleanerboy

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Define Greatness?

IMO after winning the title in 2007 if Stoner was the greatest rider of his generation, as is being claimed by all these gushing post's and pit crew statements. why did he fail to win another title for four years? Again as many on here shout from the roof tops his record over that period can be made to look as if he was the greatest and Rossi was just lucky to win two titles in 08, and 09. seening as Rossi only won because of favoritism by the organizers towards him. No thats fanboy nonsense, IMO during that period Rossi was the smarter rider of the two, Casey has always been as fast if not faster but has always been guilty of not using his head at times. Pushing for wins when a save fourth was the best the bike could do that weekend then crashing, getting over emotional and twisted when things didnt go his way. With a leveller head Casey would still be riding and and have had a couple more world titles to his name. IMO one of the fastest nature talents on bike, no doubt about it. But did he achieve as much as he should have? no ,with a Rossi or Lorenzo approach to the sport he would have done far more....and maybe not thrown his teddy out of the cot at 27.....a flawed genius

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princeofrepsol

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You know your MOTOGP career is pretty .....

much over when your grid girl wife gets her name in front of yours on MOTOGP.com. I suppose old randy will end up out here in OZ doing rider training in the not too distant future, he can teach me to pick up strippers.

http://www.motogp.com/en/photos/latest+photos/#Lauren-Vickers-Randy-de-Puniet-Wedding---Copyright-Jonathan-Dear-545451

Poor old Mr Lauren Vickers.

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

stoner's failure to win titles

I don't see your argument CCB.

You can have a go at stoner for not winning the 2012 title which it clearly was within the realms of possibility for him to do. A crash and an injury on a track he had it would seem correctly previously criticised as not up to gp standards and dangerous was influential, but I agree he clearly lacked focus before this, perhaps why he decided to retire, and deciding to retire at a young age rather than pursuing further titles is probably not a mark of greatness either.

Not winning the title on a ducati in 2008, 2009 and 2010 evidence he is not great though? Give me a break. As I need not remind you, valentino rossi, not very arguably the greatest of all, could not win a race let alone a championship in 2 years on a ducati. Eddie lawson's greatness must also come into question since he couldn't win a championship on a cagiva.

 

 

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MandyRamola

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MandyRamola says:

Lawson

He won a race on the Cagiva which is more than most have managed on an Italian GP bike.

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Bultoboy says:

This Greatness bollocks

But did he achieve as much as he should have? no ,with a Rossi or Lorenzo approach to the sport he would have done far more....and maybe not thrown his teddy out of the cot at 27.....a flawed genius

When Stoner won in Estoril, how much criticism was there on here against Lorenzo for "not challenging" for the win and settling for second (when no-one really knew whether he had settled for second or was trying his hardest to catch Stoner) How much criticism did Lorenzo get for being "unexciting" for not racing Pedrosa for the win and settling for second in the latter half of the season

Then you have Stoner going for the win in Germany and being criticised for binning it instead of settling for second and thinking of the championship. Laughable double standards.

Stoner RACES to win, not loll about in second or third picking up points for a title and if you win enough you'll win the title, if not, so what.

You have to understand whether someone races to beat everyone else on the track, every time, if that's drives them - or, whether it's to write themselves into the record books by any means it takes.

Rossi and Stoner are two completely different characters - greatness doesn't come into it

 

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MandyRamola

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MandyRamola says:

Wosi

It's great to see you finally admit it with your last post. Here's the dictionary definition of sheep, you may want to pay attention to the 3rd point: sheep noun, plural sheep. 1.any of numerous ruminant mammals of the genus Ovis, of the family Bovidae, closely related to the goats, especially O. aries, bred in a number of domesticated varieties. 2.leather made from the skin of these animals. 3.a meek, unimaginative, or easily led person.

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carcleanerboy

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Define Greatness?

When people look in the record books it will say Rossi 9x world champion , Stoner 2 x world Champion, no one will give too shit about his number of race wins. Neither would ANY team boss or manufacturer if they honestly thought a rider would rather throw away titles just to win an extra race?? Lorenzo is a far more complete rider for those reasons and so was/ Rossi. Ive raced for over twenty years and have had to hold back many times to get an end result instead of getting carried away trying to be the big man. Race wins, fastest laps and poles mean more than overall titless????? absolute bollocks

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

Exactly

Lawson's cagiva win which I remember well and was delighted with as were the Italian brothers who owned the the equipe at the time was further evidence of his greatness, rather than his record with cagiva detracting from it.

By my count in the modern era it is 16 titles yamaha, 14 titles honda, 6 titles suzuki and 1 title ducati, won by that chronic underachiever stoner. 

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