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Matthew Birt  says:

Andrea Dovizioso: Stoner retirement a big loss to MotoGP

New factory Ducati rider Andrea Dovizioso believes Casey Stoner’s absence from the track in 2013 will be a big loss to the MotoGP world championship. The Aussie retired at the end of last season after winning two world titles and 38 MotoGP races having fallen out of love with racing. Stoner remains the only rider to have consistently won races on a...

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

De Puniet a fan of Stoner cast your mind back to Le Mans in 2011 when Stoner thought Randy got in his way and launched his fist hitting him and getting fined for it.

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princeofrepsol

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Honestly who gives a f#####

what CRT riding Mr Lauren Vickers thinks, except if it is his thoughts on how to pick up chicks. 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Buell

Yes I know which point he was referring to but when Stoner is not there will they not pick a reference point of the fastest rider at the time?

The point he was making (that's Dovi, NOT me) is that no-one else is doing anything different, therefore there is nothing new to learn from anyone else. Unless of course Marquez arrives with a whole new bag of tricks.

Stoner himself said that "new riders will come through in the future and do things on the bikes that we'd have thought impossible". When that happens, then the others will again have someone to use as a reference point in terms of learning something new.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

That's odd Wosi

I thought the test he missed whilst swanning around in cars was 2011. Just when did Rossi sign this Yamaha contract according to you?

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Farnarkle

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Farnarkle says:

Ah, the love-tap

You can always see the desperate souls when this old chestnut comes out... because they never tell the rest of the story, which is that one rider stated to Race Direction that what de Puniet had done was dangerous and thoughtless and that Stoner should not be fined for his action (which was hardly a 'punch' on the scale of, say, the hit on Biaggi that drew blood).

That rider was de Puniet.  He stated that he didn't mean to be on the racing line scratching his arse when someone was coming through at full pace, he was having a bit of a brain-fade. He tried to get away from the line and rode directly across Stoner's nose.  He accepted full responsibility for the stuff-up.  Stoner considered the 5K fine money well spent to get Race Direction to do something - anything - about keeping dawdlers off the racing line.  de Puniet got a firm tap on the (padded and protected) shoulder rather than collecting a racing bike amidships doing about 120 kph faster than he was going, thanks to Stoner's ability to dodge at full speed, so he (and his missus), are probably pretty damn thankful for that.  Bubba Shobert was not so lucky when he hit somebody fooling around on the racing line.

 

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motoking

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motoking says:

stoner vs rossi

in skill, stoner has talent more than rossi,

 

in killing, rossi has MORE talent than anybody in the whole world.

 

yes, it pain in the ass.

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AldoApache

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AldoApache says:

Bultoboy

No that was patently NOT the point Dovi was making. The point he made, as stated in plain english, was that Stoner changed the sport with his lines and outright speed, and that his skill made him the reference point for GP riders and it's bad for MotoGP that he's no longer there. Read the article again you muppet, and then give yourself an uppercut for stupidity!

 

As for the Stoner/De Puniet incident, that wouldn't have ever rated a mention back in the ol' days of MotoGP.

 

This is from a Matt Oxley article:

"Rainey would’ve finished the Salzburgring race in fourth place, but for a bizarre incident on the final lap, which he started two seconds down on third-placed Alex Barros. Schwantz’s team-mate had been trying to get past a problematic backmarker and became so incensed that he rolled off on the back straight and started punching the backmarker’s helmet. That outburst gifted third place to Rainey."

That was during a race and Barros was doing it repeatedly yet I bet it didn't get the spitting and hissing Stoners little love tap got from the nancy boys!

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

No that was patently NOT the point Dovi was making. The point he made, as stated in plain english, was that Stoner changed the sport with his lines and outright speed, and that his skill made him the reference point for GP riders and it's bad for MotoGP that he's no longer there. Read the article again you muppet, and then give yourself an uppercut for stupidity!

Which is what I said. Stoner did something new which was the reference point for others to use...

Now he's gone, someone else said they'll just use the fastest rider as the new reference point. That wasn't the point. If no other rider is doing anything new then there's nothing new to learn

What's your point?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Which test do you mean Nostro?..You've got me baffled with your bullshit!

..and nevertheless, the testing mileages are on record. Casey was usually bottom of the list.

Is this what a factory looking for direction from it's #1 rider wants? Isn't the lack of Kms detrimental to the team?

  

 

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Farnarkle

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Farnarkle says:

Size doesn't matter

It's not the size, Wosi, but how you use it....

Rossi put in many miles more testing than Stoner in the last two seasons. Over at Ducati, Gobmeier has just told us that Rossi's feedback was basically crap and produced a bike that was no better than the one Stoner left behind from 2010 - (or alternatively, if it was better, then Barbera is a better rider than Rossi - take your pick, I guess.)  Which is it to be?

 

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