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ata boy Hardylean

You get those old man Rossi excuses in early. Rossi's 33, in his prime and at the peak of his abilities. He wouldn't be racing if he wasn't hungry. Oh dear, falling short of the level required though....

Huglean...

"How do you figure that?? Are you comparing Casey in his prime to Rossi in his old age after winning 7 titles already??"

No, I'm comparing the 3 of them racing together... was Rossi not 28 when Casey 1st beat him in a championship (when Rossi only had 5 championships)?... or are you saying he was past it even then?... are you in fact saying he's past it now? Fair enough. Joey Dunlop was 48 & still winning TT's... I think he still may have a few wins in him but you want to write off Rossi at 33?... strange.

"is that the work of the dominant rider?? not really.."

You don't read to well, do you?

"The reality is that casey despite his ride around anything tag needed the very best kit available and the competition to be on crap to win the title both times."

So did Rossi... unless I missed him winning on the Ducati?... I didn't miss Stoner manage that though... lots.

"Last season given stoners age and bike Rossi would have walked the title and already had this years sewn up"

At Stoner's age, & on the bike that had won the championship for 2 years running, Rossi got handed his arse by Hayden if I recall correctly... the next year it was the turn of young Aussie in his 2nd year in MotoGP riding a Ducati that no-one else could ride. Both those years he was riding the bike that he was, at the time, widely credited with developing. Apart from his time at Ducati you've managed to choose the worst period of his career to compare.

Well done...

... do you actually think before typing?

Yes Bluehaze boy

Because that's what sucessful companies like Ducati do - sit on their laurels and wait for things to happen. Christ I cannot believe how many thick people grope around in the MCN dark.

Ducati extended themselves from an engineering perspective like never before to accomodate Rossi. What did they get from him in return? An inability to adapt, flip-flopping opinions on whether new parts were better or worse, constant moaning, and in 2012 a real lack of effort exemplified in his loss of concentration crash at Laguna. A professional, or just petulant?

The vast majority of the blame for Ducati's fortunes over the past two years can be squarely laid at Rossi's heavily overpaid feet if he is what many consider him to be. Me, I just think he was a good rider a bit out of his depth with a difficult, but still competitive motorcycle. Wrong man for the job. Just watch Dovi make that thing work much better.

Disco Diarherrea

Thanks for your measured opinion and contribution to the debate, you're a welcome addition to the discussion board.

nostro

Ducati extended themselves from an engineering perspective like never before to accomodate Rossi. What did they get from him in return? An inability to adapt, flip-flopping opinions on whether new parts were better or worse, constant moaning, and in 2012 a real lack of effort exemplified in his loss of concentration crash at Laguna. A professional, or just petulant?

The vast majority of the blame for Ducati's fortunes over the past two years can be squarely laid at Rossi's heavily overpaid feet if he is what many consider him to be. Me, I just think he was a good rider a bit out of his depth with a difficult, but still competitive motorcycle. Wrong man for the job. Just watch Dovi make that thing work much better.

I think you are a very confused person at the moment.

Tell me if what you say is all true wht the hell did Ducati offer him a lot of money to stay?

Must have been because as you say he was a waste of space.....Yeah it all makes sense now!