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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati confident in old bike strategy

Ducati is confident its surprise strategy to kick off preparations for 2013 using an old version of its factory Desmosedici machine is the right approach to help it threaten Honda and Yamaha’s domination of MotoGP in the future. Although the bike unveiled by Nicky Hayden and Andrea Dovizioso in the Madonna di Campiglio ski resort is badged a GP13, it is...

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Eh?

"Ducati has resisted the temptation to make radical changes to bridge the gap to Honda and Yamaha"

There's a bloke goes in our local who's resisted the temptation to get a job for ages... we all thought he was just a lazy git but this puts a whole new spin on it.

"We see big potential with the current bike and we still have to tap into all of its potential"

That's one in the eye for Rossi... so much for being sad to see him go... but really?

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James600zx

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James600zx says:

Old Ducati.

There was an interesting Burgess interview quoted in Performance Bikes Nov 2012,

“This bike is still a frame wrapped around an engine, rather than an engine designed to go in a frame. We need new crankcases because we can’t keep raising the engine because then the countershaft sprocket gets higher and higher which affects the swingarm pivot and thus handling. You’d think we would’ve had new ’cases by Le Mans, but here we are at the ninth race with the same bike we had at the first tests.”
"If a Japanese company had the same results of Rossi and Hayden, it would be building a new frame in a week."

“There’s lots of other little things. The Honda gets a jump on us out of the corners because it’s smoother and the Yamaha is another step better. They’ve got primary and secondary injectors, while we’ve only got single injectors.”

Burgess did say the electronics had come a long way and overall the bike had good potential but his frustration at the lack of response from Ducati (also voiced by Stoner) was plain.

If it’s true that Ducati is sticking with the old bike strategy it’s depressing for riders and fans alike. For a road-bike manufacturer which trades strongly on its racing heritage it seems very short-sighted. Presumably the Audi money hasn’t arrived yet; or will Audi just pilfer what they need (like the aforementioned electronics) and spit out the rest?
 

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Sheene Fan7

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Sheene Fan7 says:

Old Ducati old results

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eddl

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eddl says:

Baldrick says, i have cunning plan m'lord

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williewheelbreaker

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hedgehog5

You made me laugh........ cheers!

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leegee010

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leegee010 says:

Fascinating...

I don't know about anyone else, but as a true fan of MotoGP I find the technical differences of the Ducati and the Jap bikes fascinating... Even if the engineering behind the Duke is wrong!

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cornbowl

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cornbowl says:

Wow

St. Bernhard has the answers, 'I know, we can adjust the springs', the geometry, will be altered after the new Ducati boys start chucking that dog straight into the kitty litter, that'll definitely shorten the wheelbase. The whole thing's a farce, Audi are not spending any cash, because Ducati are clueless on what to do with it, so they'll give it the new kids to play with for a few races, Ducati are now a joke.

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bluehaze60

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bluehaze60 says:

Old bike ?

Well what a waste of time & effort, I bet Rossi & burgess are laughing all the way back to Yamaha . Ducati lack direction & organisation , & to bring back prezziosi says it all

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Nice pleasant photo..

I wonder if Gobshite asked Ducati's new #1 what the fuck he was doing not testing at Jerez, but racing a supermoto a few hours later?

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eddl

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eddl says:

What new bike are ducati supposed to roll out then ? and with which riders input and direction? I don't blame them far better to let the new blood have a go and get some fresh info as the way to go, no point building a bike for a rider whose not there is it!

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