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Stoner Who?

Blokes, I am really sorry but can we please move on, season 2013 is about to start and Stoner has gone fishing... He is not coming back (at least not this year). We Rossi fans, will keep believen on hime and for the sake of the sports we hope to see him battleling with Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Marquez. So, why don't you move on with our ankawrd relationship to the next level. It is boring for us to hear all the time that Stoner was better than Rossi and bla bla bla. Stoner was flying in 2007 when the Duke was the faster bike on the pack and had the Bridgestones (It doesn't mean that Stoner was not bloody amazing riding it). The 1st year he switched to Honda, they had the seamless gearbox and the others did not. Again, everybody enjoyed to see hime sliding around like crazy, he is a hell of a pilot but... he is not a Legend, no matter how many of you are out there, he will never be a legend. Valentino Rossi will stay in history, because he has 9 World Titles. People will remember him, like they remember de Agostini, Nieto, Biaggi. Stoner will be forgoten. How often do you think of Criville, Kenny Roberts Jr.? The truth is that he decided to retire and live with his family. Respect. But, he lost his opportunity of becoming one of the greatest. Lorenzo also has 2 World Titles and he will probably get more... What if Vale grabs another one? Difficult but not impossible. Please do not forget that coming from the lump, the Yam must feel like butter... that's why Stoner got so fast from the 1st time he jumped in the Honda, the bike felt much 'normal' than the Duke.

Please, find somebody else to admire, your love is gone now... What about Marquez? I am sure he will be next Rossi.

stoner who

El Diablo if you wish stoner to be forgotten then perhaps you should consider ceasing to demean him, which rather invites reply from his fans.

One man's truth is his opinion to another man, but I guess since you know you are in possession of the absolute truth that makes it different.

I have absolutely no problem with valentino's fans being devoted to him, and praising him to the skies, but this doesn't mean that no other rider can have any talent or any worthy achievements. Your basic argument, particularly with stoner's 2007 championship, is that stoner must have had an advantage, because no-one can beat valentino straight up. This is not necessarily convincing to non-rossi fans, particularly when colin edwards on the aprilia cube in 2003 which a had much more pronounced straightline advantage than the 2007 ducati did not win the championship or a single race.  Have you considered that the engine characteristics which gave the 2007 ducati its overestimated straightline advantage was also the reason why riders other than stoner, including valentino, found it unrideable?. The irony of people who are fans of a rider who (very worthily) won 7 titles on factory hondas and yamahas, 5 of them on SNS tyres, complaining about a rider having an advantage on a ducati also seems to completely escape you guys.

If max biaggi is remembered it will be as a failed rossi competitor. If stoner as a successful rossi competitor is forgotten I think it will reflect less on stoner than on those doing the remembering. Unfortunately for you I fear they are indelibly linked.

Rossi faster than Stoner in 2011..

QATAR: Stoner crashed out 2010, trying to out run Rossi, who had just cleared the field and moved into 2nd, scared another Laguna 08 would develop.

Stoner said he was slowing when he crashed but had just set the fastest lap of the race. He binned it @ turn 4 after setting the fastest sector 1 time of the race, faster than he'd done on his fastest lap of the race..He wasn't slowing down at all, just making the usual excuses.

ESTORIL: Rossi's fast lap was 0.694 faster than Stoner 2010.

LEMANS: Rossi's fast lap was 1.304 faster.

MUGELLO: Rossi's fast lap was 1.695 faster. His race time 37sec faster.

BRNO: Rossi's fast lap was 0.277 faster. His race time was 5sec faster.

INDY: Rossi's fast lap was 0.298 faster. 

MISANO: Rossi's fast lap was 0.202 faster. His race time was 5sec faster.

At Estoril, LeMans and Mugello..Rossi's race time 2011 was faster than the 2010 winner which leads one to believe, had he been on a D16 in 2010 Rossi would have won races.

This is in the record book. The races were dry. Let the twisted Orange panties fly.

hmmm

I actually enjoyed some of the latter posts for once but ideally wish the Stoner/Rossi fueds would end because there will be no winners.
History is written.
Doohanfan I enjoy most of your posts as they seem to be less biased than some Stoner fans but can't agree with you about Biaggi.
He will be remembered as a 4 x 250 WC and a 2 x WSB WC without a doubt.

LOL Wosihound

So Rossi wasn't in fact faster at Qatar. You want to go through all Rossi's stacks in 2011? At least Stoner was fighting for wins. And you (of course) neglect to mention that Mugello was resurfaced in 2011, meaning everybody was MUCH faster than the previous year. Estoril was raced in May in 2011 rather than Athe usual October, meaning it was much warmer than the previous year. And Stoner only completed 2 laps of the Le Mans Round you're comparing Rossi's times to. Guess these facts just slipped your mind eh Lol. Either way that leaves Stoner faster at Qatar Jerez, Silverstone, Assen, Sachsenring, Laguna Seca, Aragon, Motegi, Phillip Island, Sepang Valencia, with 3 race wins and 9 podiums despite being given no development parts throughout the season as apposed to the multiple chassis updates Rossi received. Stoner also scored 225 points to Rossi's paltry 139.