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Doohanfan

I didn't knew you are Australian, it is clear that Stoner is your national hero so of course you will defend him at no cost. However, you do not behave as other Rossi haters and that gives you a lot of points.

I am not Italian but I am Valentino's fan. It is advisable for all young aficionados to check on youtube from time to time what use to do Rossi for MotoGP, the shows he pulled on the 2 strokes kept the sport alive. Vale is a legend because of his character. Not a super clean rider but a very intelligent one, a genius. Stoner had no chance of being loved like Rossi and that costed him. He always tried to force people to admire him and never admited defeat or criticism. When Rossi tried to apologize after their clash Stoner said: Your ambition outweighs your talent... I bet he practiced this line a lot of times in front of the mirror... by the way it is from the movie BLOW so nothing original there. it was a mistake but Stoner was 'hurt' since Laguna...

I stopped liking him after that incident. Then it got worse, he bashed fairings with Abraham with the excuse that the Czech rider was waiting for him, trying to leech a tow.

The final note was when Stoner rode up beside Randy de Puniet last year at Le Mans and punched him on the shoulder stating that he blocked him during warm-ups while the pair were travelling at high -speeds... sorry your highness, all riders forgot they had to step aside to give you enough space... Shame Abraham did bitch slapped you...

Finally, Stoner's bike was ridden by Stoner for 3 years. It was his baby, adapted to his riding style. And his style was super agressive. Rossi admited that he could not ride the thing like Casey, CHAPEAU. What all Rossi haters seem to forget is that if Rossi times in a bike he never liked and never felt comfortable with were good enough to get him overall good results against Hondas and Yamahas 2007 and beyong.

You are always stating Stoner this, Stoner that... yes but when the competition was nowhere as strong as today. Rossi couldn't do absolutelly nothing against the new breed of the Japanese. You easilly forget that Stoner stopped winning on 2009-10 (finished 4th both years) when the japs closed and increased the gap. The last 2 years have been also a nighmare for Rossi-Ducati because of evolving very few steps, litle evolution and slow reaction times. Rossi stopped trying, wiselly - at my believe not to smash his head trying to be 1-2 positions up the grid.

Let's see what Dovi does next year and what Rossi does... If Stoner is the real deal, please, send them a 1.000.000 like on facebook so he jumps on the Duke again and show us who's boss?

What was the point Bulto's

made often Wosi? Mugello 2009, a sulky Rossi sitting stewing on his bike in parc ferme having come third to Stoner and Lorenzo. There's your definition of a sore loser.

ElDiablo

You're entitled to your opinion obviously but this is nonsense

The final note was when Stoner rode up beside Randy de Puniet last year at Le Mans and punched him on the shoulder stating that he blocked him during warm-ups while the pair were travelling at high -speeds... sorry your highness, all riders forgot they had to step aside to give you enough space... Shame Abraham did bitch slapped you...

Go and watch it again. De Puniet was dawdling - ie: going very slowly - on the racing line of an extremely fast and blind corner exit. It was stupid thoughtless riding and could have caused a huge accident with anyone, not just Stoner. It just happened to be Stoner who came upon him first. He didn't PUNCH De Puniet, it was a tap on the shoulder and do you really think it was dangerous? As dangerous as what De Puniet did? And remember, as you've obviously forgotten or have deliberately ignored it, De Puniet apologised and accepted he was in the wrong.

Finally, Stoner's bike was ridden by Stoner for 3 years. It was his baby, adapted to his riding style. And his style was super agressive.

Stoner had nothing to do with the 2007 bike which was developed and tested with Gibernau and Capirossi. Stoner was about 3rd or 4th choice for Ducati who fully expected Capirossi to continue where he left off in 2006 by challenging for the title. Each subsequent bike had the same problem with being difficult to ride, so you can hardly say it was developed to his riding style. Rossi's 2012 bike was nothing to do with Stoner but still has the same issues. Stoner adapted himself to the Ducati, it was never developed for him. Rossi and all the rest couldn't

And if you think Rossi is the complete and fair-minded sportsman, watch him push Gibernau off the track at Jerez, listen to him moaning about Elias riding dangerously because he was beaten by him in Portugal, watch him sit on his bike sulking in the winner's enclosure at Mugello and refusing to talk to anyone after finishing 3rd and then watch him be only too willing to talk at the next race after winning at Barcelona when he rudely interrupts Lorenzo's live TV interview to make the point that he'd beaten him in his home race.

If you're going to criticise, be fair minded yourself and comment on them all, not selectively pick the rider you dislike.

qatar 2009 night race wosi

The delayed qatar 2009 motogo race was run still as a night race but at a different time, 9 pm Qatar time rather than 11 pm as originally scheduled the previous day, which ended up being an unfeasible time in australia hence my not watching it.This could well have affected track conditions, as the rain the previous day could have done by washing rubber off the track, with the gp race cancelled  after the 125s and 250s had run. Being well in front for most of the race could also possibly have made stoner's fastest lap and total race time slower rather than quicker as well.

I realise none of this counts because we are talking about stoner of course, and by the patented wosi motogp race performance algorithm he as opposed to valentino can only be affected positively and not negatively by factors extrinsic to him.

palpable bitterness

If I was to be bitter about anything regarding motogp wosi (I realise it is actually a sport btw) it would not be concerning non-performance by stoner at Qatar  or  inferior performance at ducati relative to valentino rossi's performance for that marque, whatever the grotesque rationalisations you make about the latter.