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Fanboys & pretty maids..all in a row.

Nostro, doohanfan, bulto & hedgey...stamping their tiny little feet in a far away Orange munchkinland of make believe.

fkin rentboys.

Pedro could ride it, squaks Nobstroke..yeah righto. Titleless in 7 long years on the best bike. He'd have been out of a job if Stoner hadn't disapperaed in a girly huff. Nakamoto said he'd struggled most with the late weight increase last year because of his pimply biceps and effeninate, fragile physique. Can anyone other than MCN worst gambler Nobstruckdumbarse, honestly see him bossing that Ducati? His tiny body unable to withstand the constant crashes. Why did he turn Ducati down when it looked like he'd be out on his ear?

do-onefan and his long-winded prose saying nothing as usual, other than I told you so and trying to convince 2007, Stoner had no advantage at all? Shares in Kleenex would be a good investment.

Bultoyboy is fast turning into the most obsessive Rossi hater on MCN..Not damaging? Most remember Jerez for the way Stoner went backwrds, brake-checked Rossi, forgot to keep his clutch pulled in, blamed the marshalls, stood on the inside of turn 1 waving his arms crying every time his nemesis  went by laughing in his lid and almost got lynched. An utterly pathetic display of immaturity all round and a typical illustration of why most fans believe Casey is a knob.

..last and always least, Hedgey the dullard..No mates, humourless and looking to impress his weightier Orange chums by rimming their arses..Oohh Oooh I'll add to that and help you out Bulto..will you be my friend?

haha..what a sorry bunch of pre-pubescent pussies you are.

PS..Great minds think alike ElDiablo

Blancmange and Bile

Blancmange from Gobby and the usual Bile from the masses.

Ducati hit the sweet spot with bike, tyres and rider in 2007 (and also the last race of 2006), but thereafter over the next three seasons managed to lose the magic in all three.  "Not to worry", they said.  "We'll just spend a motza on the best rider that ever was and Jim (JB and him) will fix it!"

I don't know where they got the idea that Valentino was a development genius (maybe from all the geniuses on here) but the reality was that in this instance his ambition outweighed his talent.

When Rossi starts getting podiums on the sorted Yamaha there will be the usual muppets on here trying to erase the last two years from MotoGP history.  I suppose if people can deny the holocaust and climate change then a couple of seasons of racing is a doddle, but the real MotoGP fans appreciate that the world is complex and blind hero worshipping is for the bogans/chavs of society.

Hedgehog

''Erm... because the other bikes improved more than Ducati did... or did you expect Yamaha & Honda to stand still?''

Thank you for that !   It explains perfectly why Rossi and Burgess were unable to succeed with the Desmo.

Well done!

great minds

We have done this dance before wosi. No arguments so ad hominem is your only resort, as you seem to  be insufficiently familiar with logical debate to even employ more than a couple of the common logical fallacies, perforce sticking to the couple you know. I wax prolix in debate (such as it is) with you given your tendency to change the ground as you proceed. 

Very obviously the 2007 ducati was better relative to the other bikes than in later years, which does not have as a logical corollary that it was easy to win a motogp championship on it or that anyone else in the field other than stoner could have done so.

PS I am philosophically opposed to argumentum ad hominem myself , but I will directly quote from your post  and if some see irony in your statement so be it
 
"great minds think alike el diablo".
 

questions el diablo

If you think your questions are bullshit questions , I won't be impolite and disagree, and there seemed to be rather more than one of them once you got going.

I have a few of my own, bullshit or otherwise, and even some answers. When did questioning the legitimacy of championships rather than giving credit for the winning of them ab initio become an issue?  In my several decades of following the sport, not before 2006. Why is not winning a championship on a ducati cause for remark but winning one for that marque easily dismissed, given that only one has been won on a ducati against 16 odd on yamahas and 15 odd on hondas? Why has dani pedrosa in 6 years on an hrc bike including 2011 and 2012 not won a championship? And seeing you seem preoccupied by questions of petty nationalism, how many premier class championships have been won by spanish riders again?

PS And yes, winning 7 championships is better than 2, as it is better than 3, 4, 5 or 6 championships, but even 1 or 2 championships are not negligible, and I certainly  consider alex criville's one championship and jorge lorenzo's 2 championships, particularly given how the latter  rode to win his championships and  the standard of opposition he faced, to be far from negligible myself.