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Ducs disease

Yes, Wosi, the Duc certainly did get worse by comparison to the Yams and Hondas; in fact, that rate was accelerating, and at no time moreso that Valencia 2010, when the very exact same Duc lost 2 secs a lap overnight! It went from a second in the race on Sunday to slower than a river barge overnight!  From second to slowest bike on the track one day later.

Whatever happened, it was pretty damn drastic. You'd have thought a development genius of Rossi's calibre would have been able to simply walk up to it and see that Stoner had taken two seconds away with him instantly, and fix it with his Swiss Army knife and some duct tape, but hey, shit happens.  Of course, from thereon it was all downhill for Rossi on the Duc (except L.S. 2012, when he didn't quite get as far as the downhill bit before falling off, again and as usual).

Talking b*ll*cks He would say that

The Ducati is never going to work with a 90 deg. V engine. It means the mass is too long and too spread out. To exagerate the effect it is like trying to race a chopper. The weight does not go forward enough to load the front under braking and does not load the rear enough under acceleration. i.e. corner entry and corner exit. Dovi. may be able to ride around it better than Rossi. Stoner certainly could but a re think of that engine is the way foreward. Difficult for a company that sells only 90 deg. V engined motorcycles.

Saturn...

"Thank you for that !   It explains perfectly why Rossi and Burgess were unable to succeed with the Desmo."

Yay... you're getting there... as has been said over & over they needed to improve more than Yamaha & Honda to close the gap... & it's a gap that they're constantly trying to stretch.

2008 to 9 the gap got bigger with the new CF bike as Stoner dropped to 220 points but they held it at that the next year (despite the crashes) effectively improving inline with the Japanese factories... then Stoner left.

"Well done!"

I'm beginning to like Mr Gobmeier

I was originally just spouting rubbish when describing Rossi as a whimsical prima donna who spent his two years at Ducati demanding the factory build him new random parts every week, but turns out it was actually TRUE. All you need to know about Rossi is contained in the following quote: "Because after what all I did for Yamaha, they put me in a team, a very strong teammate". So after paying him millions over 5 years and providing him with a championship winning bike he thinks they owe *him* and have no right to hire a rider who might actually be faster. Hard to imagine a more self-serving and arrogant attitude. Ducati have wasted two years of development thanks to him, good riddance.

Doohafan

Obviosly Doohanfan, you lack humor, my intentions are to make some fun at the situations described below, no mean to disrespect anybody personally as we don't know each other.

Now, talking business, you want us to accept the vast superiority of your down under mate because he mastered a difficult bike forgeting that it was the faster and the better equiped (Bridgestones) of the pack in 2007.

2nd some juvenile blokes state some stupidities about Colin Edwards on the Cube being also fast in the straight line, are u serious? Edwards vs Rossi's or Stoner's talent?

3d, you are not the only one following MotoGP or 500 before 2006 (I am 40) and obviously you are not the only one with some racing experience or whatsover... I can understand that suddenly other folks interrupt your urge to impress younger audience but as you can understand (I hope), Stoner is gone and soon will be forgotten, I also don't think much of Criville or Roberts Jr. and I will probably also forget Lorenzo if he stays with only 2 WT. But I will surely remember Doohan (as you do) and Rossi for the obvious reasons.

Again, we have to accept - because you say so - that Stoner is the best rider of all times with 2 WChampionships... and then you die to convince everybody else that 7+2 World Titles where won just because of some random planet alignement... sure mate. You totally blew me there... AUT VIAM INVENIAM AUT FACIAM
 

Nationalism? Obviously I am not the Australian guy supporting my fishinmate at no cost... and obviously I am not Italian... plus I was a huge Doohan fan myself so no nationalisms here buddy. Do you have any objections regarding that the future of MotoGP is Spanish? Can you please state what other country can and will monopolise the game? Australia, nope, USA? France? Italy? UK??? Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Marquez vs Rossi (hope he wins at least 1 more), Dovi, Spies, etc... 3 out of 4 aliens are Spanish, what are the odds?