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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

EU new plans

They have allocated nearly £2 million to employ staff to trawl through social networks, forums, etc looking for evidence of euroskeptic opinions. They are to then find the ringleaders and discredit them.


"NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUR" WAS NOT MEANT AS A HANDBOOK ON HOW TO RUN THE PERFECT STATE.

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Mankind

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Mankind says:

vulc / phile

also the idea of an EU army. As I've many times said, the end game is the United States of Europe.

Well how did that work out in the USA? Bloodily. 
They entered a voluntary union. The central authority was given money. Then more money, then more power, repeat. when the tax burden fell more heavily on the South, and the money spent more in the North, the South wanted out.
"There will be no invasion of the South, other than to enforce the collection of taxes" was the response. Pay up or die in other words.
The North sent troops to re-enforce the fort in the South territory. The South fired on the fort (killing no-one) to fuck 'em off - imagine an EU fort in England with EU troops on the way. The war was on.
The wrong side won. The USA became an empire.
Even at the stage we're at now, it won't be trouble free, imagine policing our true fishing waters.
Still, that's no reason to give into serfdom.

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

Careful

you're too intelligent. They'll 'ave you!

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Mankind

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Mankind says:

Ha hardley

and I'd be way down the list. They might use my money to monitor me, if it looked like anyone was taking the slightest bit of notice of me, which they don't usually, then they might pay someone to do some professional arguing with me, full of 'facts' I'd have no time to research.

No, I'm quite safe. If Ron Paul had gotten anywhere I'm fairly sure he'd have died.
If UKIP start really challenging, we might have some Diana moments.

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CharlieSYLO

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CharlieSYLO says:

Incompetence

A brilliant book written by one of the writers of Red Dwarf (Doug Naylor IIRC). Set slightly in the future about the EU super state. It was written as satire, however he got alot of stuff right. My point of view coincides with anyone who says the EU are cum guzzling cunt sacks, or words to that effect.

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SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

Christ almighty!

Any mention of the EU certainly brings out... erm, how to put this diplomatically... some colourful ideas!

MK:  Good to see you're still about.  Have you seen what your counterparts in the US are up to these days, the swivel-eyed teabaggers?  With them, it's all about the UN.   With the UKIP (=BNP "lite" brigade), it's all about the EU.

Fascinating parallels, and the exact same far-Reich playbook is employed for each, using almost exactly the same language.

(btw - was it in the Express too?  It must be true!  :lol:  )

Take care mate.

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Homer40

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Homer40 says:

Have to agree...

......with the comments on here about the EU.

Discredit anyone.......fuck me, they want to take a good long look in the mirror before looking at anyone else. Fucking fresh air robbing cunts.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::wink:

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SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

"discrediting"

Don't you lot think that there's been a fair bit of discrediting of the EU - relentlessly, on a daily basis - from our little-Englander press for decades?

Most of it is made up or grossly exaggerated too (eg, the "straight banana" regulation myth).

If they want to set the record straight, why shouldn't there be a budget for that - or are you content to be fed lies day in, day out, and believe them?

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SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

Torygraph lies

By the way, I'm not sure the Torygraph can be completely depended upon when it comes to the EU.

Euro Myths

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The city once known in English as Bombay is now known as Mumbai. So should the spicy snack known as Bombay Mix be renamed, in order to strip it of colonial overtones?

According to one British newspaper in July 2006, this is precisely what "nutty EU officials" were demanding, in the name of political correctness. It would be an exaggeration to say that the British nation was united in indignation, but the story is an interesting one because it is a 100% pure example of what the European Commission calls a "euromyth".

It was traced back to its roots by the Daily Telegraph's Brussels correspondent at the time, David Rennie, who spoke to the small-town news agency which sold the story to the national press. The agency's news editor said it "came from a mate of his at the Home Office, who had heard it being talked about". Had he tried to pin it down, or found any piece of paper discussing the change? Had he found a manufacturer who had been advised to alter a product name? No, it was "just meant to be funny for the tabloids".

-----end quote



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weasel64

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weasel64 says:

sl

just renewed my BNP membership does that make me a euro-sceptic ?????

dont waste your time answering that  , too damn right im sceptic , full pull out is the only way ( & no quips about my father doing the same thing 48 years ago ) just incase achmed thinks hes a genius by mentioning that bit ..

as for "  are you content to be fed lies day in, day out " , europhiles thrive on it , it's call " drip feeding " pro euro stuff & its happening now via media outlets ( the pro ones ) & in schools , off for a shower now i'll be back all fresh & ready to discuss some of your finer points ( naturally i'll be batting for the out of europe brigade ) , nowt personal though , just my opinion .. brb :wink:

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

Slow Learner

I know what you mean - I read something somewhere about how the EU now wants to control our press. I read the actual EU brief and I couldn't find a single way to interpret it as an underhand way of controlling the press.


However, they have lied to us, ignored the democratic process and proven themselves anti-democratic. We have lost our capacity for self-government through its non exercise. Power is passing from the people to central government and from government to Brussels. The EU commission has the arrogance to say that 1 Euro spent at Brussels level is worth 4 at government, even though it is well recognised that money spent closer to the people is most efficient and has the greatest effect on quality of life.

Even in the 14th Century we had come up with the concept of liberty and "government of the people, by the people and for the people" as was written in the prologue of John Wycliffe's Bible translation of 1384 and quoted by Abraham Lincon. Today this concept is being slowly ground away by the EU. The government is not of the people (yes the parliament is but their powers are strictly limited and so is debate with people allowed all of one minute to make a point. Their only real power and responsibility is to hold the commission to account on the budget and they've not done that properly for 18 years), the actual power centre - the commission is not elected by the people and suspicion is growing suspicion that its primary intent is to secure power with ensuring it is making decisions in the interest of the people a distant second.

Ask yourself - what powers do we have and what mechanism is in place for us to remove the president of the EU? We didn't vote for him in any way and there is no mechanism for the elected parliament to remove him as far as I can find.

This is not democracy, it is more the Soviet Union. Starting off with good intentions but now over reaching and demanding access to a military. A near dictatorship with command of armed forces is a dangerous thing, especially when it's the powerful and technologically advanced armed forces of Europe.

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