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Ducati barely scraped into the top ten in the first MotoGP test at Sepang – should they just admit defeat?

After the first test of 2013, Valentino Rossi is back on top pace, running in fourth place, while Andrea Dovizioso (who took his ride at Ducati) is in a lowly 13th place. Former teammate Nicky Hayden is top Ducati in 10th, while fellow American ben Spies is in the last of the full time GP machine riders, back in 17th...

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soysauce

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soysauce says:

Yeah right!

Eddy998, Rossi is responsible for the development of the M1 yamaha when no one else could win on it he made it the bike that Lorenzo as a novice could climb on and win in his first GP season, the only thing to do with the ducati is give them to museums and then let the tidal wave of Audi money and engineering excellence do it's thing, every form of motorsport they compete in they go on to utterly dominate year in, year out.

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CaNsA

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CaNsA says:

Eddy998

You, sir, are a fool.

I'm not a "Rossi Fan Boi" by any means.

Rossi got the bike from Stoner.

Stoner is the one who rode around the problems the bike has, thus meaning there was no development taking place.

As far as Ducati were concerned, they were doing a great job. Along comes Rossi, who put alot of time into developing the Yam to is current state, and told Ducati that the bike is shit.

Do your homework sunshine.

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RageRider

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RageRider says:

Ducati's own fault!

The fact is that the Ducati's development has stalled as it's going further and further down the wrong road and for whatever reason they can't or won't listen to anybody who may be able to turn it around. It's a typically Italian attitude, style over substance and a sheer aggressive bloody mindedness to stick to their guns no matter what.

Also for the record the Ducati Stoner won races and titles on was far from perfect but was still a lot better than the Ducati that Hayden or Rossi et al have had. I happen to find Stoner an irritating whinging prat at times BUT he is an undeniably super talented rider and Moto GP will be worse of for him not being there.

However his Ducati in it's prime was a rocketship and importantly had specfic tires developed for it which masked the long standing front end grip issues pretty much everyone that's ridden it has spoken of. Subsequently the Moto GP rules started changing, and more specifically the standardised tire rule came in, Ducati went off on their own development tangent, Stoner started crashing more and more due to front end vagueness/issues etc and then he left for Honda after having enough of Ducati cutting their nose off despite their face and not listening to him.

The icing on the cake for Stoner was a perceived disrespect from Ducati's top brass regarding his mystery illness which apparently turned out to be a lactose intolerance. That is the reality of it.

Unfortunately it's all been reduced to inaccurate bickering between the pro Stoner and pro Rossi camps which is just ever getting ever more tedious in my opinion.

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billysollocks

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Or, are they playing little games to keep the opposition thinking they're lagging behind? I don't think Ducati are daft enough to keep hurling money (which is in short supply) at a problem. Maybe they've learned something from those inscrutable Japanese types after all........be interesting to see what happens at the first race, I'll probably be proved wrong, but there you go, that's life. 

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Robell

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Robell says:

So they should give up after the first test ?

Good to see so much postive thinking !!!!

Ducati brought  a breath of fresh air into MotoGP, and while they're clearly having problems, I doubt anyone at Ducati or Audi is planning on throwing in the towel just yet.

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halfmanhalfninja

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Sandbagging?

Absolutely no way. If the bike was quick, they'd love to shove it to Rossi.

 

But it aint... And the fact they've turned up with last years bike with a lick of paint means they wont get any decent results for some time. However, I admire the fact they are there, the grid would be a lot emptier with out them for sure.

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Bob_1

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Bob_1 says:

Potty Logic

Certainly every Moto GP team wants to win but the suggestion that any team not winning should pack up and go home is ludicrous. A philosophy which would ensure the only bike on the grid is a Honda, maybe a Yamaha or whatever the rider-of-the-moment is on. "Should they just admit defeat" is an ill-considered remark and isn't what we want at all.

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Economically, of course they should sack it off.

They all should.  MotoGP and WSB are chasing a market increasingly composed of coffin dodgers whose biggest concerns are thumb-strain from the 3000 page Harley catalogue, or whether the grey or the beige Ewan-and-Thingy suit would go better with their new GS.

The emerging Asian economies have affluent Yoof with the desire and the dosh to buy a plastic fantastic, but they typically can't buy or ride the 600+ ones due to local laws.

Manufacturers might take a look at the sums that they piss away on thrusting their cock-rockets around a track, and consider whether they'd be better served by buying some advertising space in Nuts and Zoo saying "Biking, it's ace, and you'll be beating the birds off with a rusty chain."

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Vortex52

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Vortex52 says:

New light on the way!

With AUDI now in command things will improve a lot! Italians are brilliant designing things, but germans put it to work! It's an ols saying but seems to be the truth.

As 80% Italian I do wish Ducati all the luck thei deserve!

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Titosfuneral

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Titosfuneral says:

Ducati are still in the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" slot. They need to be racing or they'll do a MV Augusta. Nice bikes that virtually no-one buys.

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