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Probably can't do worse than your 2011 predictions though can I?

Doohanfan

No, I am suggesting that instead of chosing a wild card appearance on his home race (that obviously he fully dominates), he should pick up perhaps VR home race or Laguna (well better not cause he is already traumatized enough...).

The funny thing is that everybody forgets that Stoner could ride efficiently the Duke (better than anybody else, agree) when the Duke was the fastes of the pack. His last years on the Ducati where decadent and he could no more ride around the problems cause the bike was shit and left behind in development while the japs where advancing at extreme paces.

Now how can you all state that winning 9 World Titles is the same as winning 2??? I really do not understand... If Stoner's superiority on Valentino is so obvious, why did he lost in the rain where the differences on HP and traction did no longer existed or smoothened up?

Why does not Stoner goes back to the Duke to finish 6th - 7th overall? Do you still believe after watching Dovi's face (the real hard worker development god) that Stoner could do anything more?

Who is a better rider for you 2Stroke Doohan or 4 Stroke Stoner? You and perhaps a couple of million more will remember Stoner in a few years. Rossi will be remembered for ever. 

Donnigton 2009

That was another wet race Stoner did well in ......  

 

Buell

I agree we all have opinions but it seems your opinions about the Ducati are all related to trying to make out the bike is fine and Rossi was the problem.

Yeah whatever, he couldn't ride the thing could he - He couldn't ride it any better than anyone else other than the one bloke that could make it perform. That's a fact and has nothing to do with me. It's your standard response - that I'm always trying to make Rossi look bad.

Dogbert - That wasn't really a true representation of the Ducati though, was it?

They had a private test a couple of days prior to the race, then the rest of the teams were hit by the weather during the weekend, leaving Ducati sitting pretty.

Not 100% no, I did say they had two days over the other teams but they'd also have have had more time over the race weekend had they had full dry sessions. He may not have finished second (I'd say definitely not if Pedrosa hadn't been wiped out and Stoner had been there) but he had a massive gap to Hayden who hadn't been at the 2 day test. That wasn't normal, so the only point I was suggesting was that with time, they found a better set up for Rossi who then rode the bike quicker. It's unlikely the other teams would have improved a second or so a lap more had they had full sessions and pushed him back to 10th, but granted that doesn't mean it is capable of regularly winning races.

Wosi - I suggest it is Bulto and Bum Chum Nostro who are losing their grip?

HaHa - this from the man who is now performing back-flips quicker than his pet goldfish that the cat has pawed out of its bowl. Can I remind you of how you used to blame the CF frame (Stoner's fault of course) for the handling woes of the Ducati. Then, when Rossi got his way and pronounced himself very happy with the new perimiter framed bike at Sepang you danced around saying I told you so. Then, when there was no improvement in results on said bike and Rossi deemed it impossible to set up, you joined the Emmet bandwagon -  often linking his article on "the problem with the Ducati" and gleefully pointing out how the 90 degree V twin was at the root of Ducati's problems.

Now you find Honda has one, so another change of tack and it's now the size of it that's the problem, not the configuration. Fck me man, what's next, it's the wrong colour or has the wrong shape cam covers?

Looks like your chances of providing those tangible reasons for Ducati's problem are dribbling away faster than Rossi's reject parts into the 5 ringed skip.

Bultoboy..

As usual you're talking utter bollocks..

..compared to your good self, Old wosi has a deep understanding of all things mechanical relating to motorbikes.

He knows the difference between a twin and a V-four and that CF is not the same as Aluminium. He comprehends the benefits of perfect primary & secondary balance and the theory behind Furasawa's centroid triangle that had Preziosi offering to fall on his sword. Wosi can read between the lines and makes his own mind up.

You drawing a conclusion that the GP9/10 was actually a great bike on the strength of one fast lap by Checa on a Superbike in testing, when the bikes are so patently different, is a desperate last throw of the dice of a totally discredited Rossi hater..making it up as he goes along.

Pal, we can all see you're way out of your depth and hurting..

Now..If you truly believe at this stage of the game, with the Ducati 2 seconds off the pace and both riders calling for a new bike, that you're gonna see Bologna dust the mothballs of Stoners CF bike that he was so inconsistent on..you need to pay closer attention. It would be a complete waste of time if I ran you through the inherent problems associated with the D16, that you've read about a thousand times before but choose to ignore.

You simply can't get it through your thick head that when Hayden says the new bike is better..it probably is. That when Dovi agrees with him that the bike needs a total redesign despite the above, after such a short space of time on the bike and riding the opposition so recently, it actually vindicates Rossi..and all this without taking into consideration him being only a tenth behind the WC on the same bike, first time out.

Your desperate dislike of the man has skewed reality inside that pea brained world of yours.

You are completely and utterley wrong in almost all your fantastic conspiracy theories and without doubt are in the running for the biggest James Blunt on this site.

Now fuck off and have a sit down somewhere quiet you plonker and let the rest of us talk racing without your constant whining, bitter background noise lowering the tone.