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fuk me this has turned

Into a medical debate.........does anybody want a medical condition diagnosing......just pop it up and one of the team will give u a diagnosis shortly.....thank you for your patience

Oh ffs DF..Man up.

Do you think wosi is the only one on the GP planet to have a big fat ? about the subject.

..and if you think a belated Lactose diagnosis has completely banished all doubt from everyone's mind, given Stoners track record, I personally think you're being naive.

I understand your stance..but it has more to do with being a fanboy than any impatial & informed professional opinion you may have.

Stoner is an enigma, there's probably only a handful of people who know the real story & reasons. He doesn't seem too fussed on setting the record straight beyond all reasonable doubt and likely never will.

The question mark still remains. 

Silverstone 2010..

Tight Underwear. Arm Pump & Setting a fast lap at the end of a race nearly 4 tenths faster than your next fastest?

This, to me, sums up Stoner in a nutshell..Full of contradictions.

Great post race interview from Nostro's favourite, David Emmett.

Well worth a read for the comedy value alone..

http://motomatters.com/news/2010/06/21/casey_stoner_post_race_debrief_i_ve_got_.html

http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2010/GBR/MotoGP/RAC/Analysis.pdf?v2_024dccd4

2011 and 2012 ducati

Some of the interviews, post race and generally, from the lead ducati corse rider  in those years contained a modicum of negativity wosi.  I might even draw the conclusion that both stoner and rossi are riders accustomed to being at the front of the field who don't like not being competitive.

What is salient to 2009, the year we were actually discussing, is that stoner largely said the bike was fine, that his health was the problem. His statements about his health in that year were also imo not those of someone dissembling, he continually said that he felt ill at the end of races, and had no idea what the problem was. It would have been easy for him to say he had chronic fatigue syndrome which it is hard to exclude as a diagnosis, and which many were speculating he had on the forums, but he didn't do so. He was tested at the Australian Institute of Sport and found to have quite abnormal exercise physiology when he reputedly normally can keep up with professional cyclists on a bike, and was eventually found to have a significant electrolyte disturbance.  Rumours abounded that year before he took the time off about his diet and training; I tend to believe those, jelly beans etc were probably among the few things which didn't make him feel crook.

The greater question for me was why that element among rossi fans among whom I don't always number you were so desperate  to deny the possibility that stoner had an organic health problem and ascribe psychiatric pathology to him, and why even if the the latter was true this would be cause for gleeful gloating anyway. Calling stoner adolescent when you and your ilk seem to have a deep wish to believe your man can "break" fellow riders with jedi mind tricks or whatever also brings us back to cognitive dissonance.

A poster on another forum in regard to the difference between stoner and other hated rossi rivals like biaggi and gibernau put it very succinctly, "this dog bites back"; I won't further extend the metaphor, even in a debate with a hound..