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its bad here, but not as bad as America or Australia.

Phil

I'm afraid you're right, Britain needs someone more brutal than Thatcher to sort out the mess  the trouble is though it would be a right winger and likely tory who would only be brutal on the easy targets but not on his/her chums in the banking industry. See how Cameron is squirming and squealing about the EU proposal to limit bankers bonus's to one years salary ? he wants the UK bankers to be exempted from that ! Then you get Steven Hester (the guy in charge of an 81% public owned bank) pontificating and saying it should be ready for selling off late next year, FFS it made over £5 billion losses last year with OUR taxes paying to float this lot.

Leaving UK Phil ? when we crossed the channel in the motorhome I was driving out of Calais numb and thinking 'WTF are you doing' it was a hard thing for me to do but boy am I glad we're where we are now. I can take a more detached view of Britain looking in from the outside. I see a couple of my kids working their asses off to survive and I don't like it. I cannot understand the how and why Britain is in such a mess, Spain is in a bigger mess but the basics are getting done. The streets are cleaned the rubbish collected daily NOT fortnightly, our utility bills are considerably lower, public transport is cheap and efficient and clean, I can't say that about Cornwall, the local streets are filthy the buses are dirty inefficient and expensive. Our water bill in Cornwall was £66 per month our last one here was 53 euro's for 3 months. corporate greed seems to me to be one of Britain's underlying problems and I don't see that changing in my life time.

Work ethic

has something to do with how the basics are still done here. Simple stuff like our street cleaner he's nothing like the ones we had in Camborne who would push brooms around leaving crud behind, fag drooping out of their gobs and looking like bags of slack shit tied in the middle. This guy is in fresh kit every day neatly turned out and actually does the job, when he's swept a street it's clean not half and half. Like I said my preconceptions were wiped away pretty early after we arrived.  Maybe they're running on empty but the services on the ground are still getting done and done well. We left Cornwall three years ago, it was a dirty little town then and still is now.

I'm not one for poltical ranting

as I usually put my foot in it, but I think most peoples ideology is the same.

Strong harsh decisions need to be made, but I am pretty sure there isn't one person in the political spectrum who would be brave enough to do it,

I would given the chance, but then I have nothing to loose regarding a future career.

I think the majority of people will accept we need a certain amount of specialised immigration and accept only skilled workforce into the country.  There doesn't seem to be much of a slow down of benefit immigrants which as everyone on here should no I'm not rascist, but if you come here then you must be able to house and fund you and any family members before arrival

As for our own home grown country men who choose not to work as they would be better off on benefit, then it is the system that is wrong and not the claimant. A benefit system is there to help when illness and bad luck happen and a safety net to help get oneself back on their feet and not a lifestyle choice. The majority of people do not wish to be on benefit it's just the media highlight the certain ones that do.

I know little regarding the ins and outs of the EU but I'm glad we are standing alone on that front and wish we could be more so than we are.  A lot of people who voted all those years ago to join are the ones who are now complaining the loudest.

I believe, and someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but foreign aid can not just be stopped due to contracts which were made by other previous Governments but the same mistake shouldn't be made again.

It would be nice for the UK to be a great manufacturing country again but sadly that looks unlikely.

As for wealthy entrepreneurs then we need them, we have to personally be happy with our lot and put more effort into trying as much as we can to put in as much as we want out.  Some will always do well and others not so.

So you see my basic knowledge of politics is limited but I do know that after reading horror stories of other countries I know how lucky I really am  to be here.  But also some basic hard facts have to be implemented pretty darn soon.

It's called being cruel to be kind and the harder the better for long term recovery and growth

Did you not read the post?

I'm not suggesting you should have sympathy for O'Farrell or anyone else. I'm suggesting that out of context quotes are no basis for an opinion. Try reading what the man actually said rather than what the media say he said.