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Simon Patterson  says:

Stoner DNFs in V8 debut

Casey Stoner's V8 debut came to an abrupt halt after a punctured tyre saw him retire from the first race while in 13th place. He got off to a good start, impressing by qualifying 12th around the Adelaide street circuit, then moving up to 10th by the first five laps. However, he then dropped back to 13th, losing time through the slower...

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Farnarkle

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Farnarkle says:

The sublime irony

The purest form of choking, of mental fragility and lack of racecraft, is leading the WC at the last race, starting from pole, and then crashing out of the WC while trying unsuccessfully to overtake a rookie on a second-string satellite bike on second-string tyres of the same brand as your mid-night specials - while riding the bike you have personally developed to your exacting (and supposedly unsurpassed expertly) specifications.

In mitigation, it has to be noted that that rookie was Stoner and in the light of the caning Rossi received from Stoner thereafter over the years, it could be argued that this was no more than Rossi's future coming early to bite him.  Fair play too - Rossi had some good races, though it took him until L.S '08 to avenge being quite simply outraced by Stoner at Catalunya '07.

But enough of this statesmanlike banter -  it is becoming tiresome (a little joke there on the constant regurgitation about Stoner's supposed BS advantage in '07 vs Rossi's cringeworthy failure on any Ducati despite absolute tyre parity with the rest of the field).  We can take up the cudgels again in the next thrilling instalment of the Stoner v8 story in mcn when Birt writes his article about Stoner's second race, where he very successfully overtook more competitors than any v8 racer for the weekend on a rather shitty little concrete tube of a track.  This thread has descended into the usual conflict of fact on the side of Stoner's record vs. confection at a Nixonesque level on the part of the Tinoboppers, though I suppose 'twill ever be thus while they confuse Rossi and Harry Potter with real life.

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simoncbr1000rr

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I can't believe this

Lol lol.....is this mcn for trolls

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DogBert

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DogBert says:

Chatter?

It was more more than chatter doofan. Engine failure, tyres chunking, etc. But the point I raised is still falling on deaf ears. Little Casey, the world champ, on the best bike, lost the plot mid season, again, costing him the title.

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acanada46

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acanada46 says:

farnarkle

Stoners supposed bs tyre advantage iin 2007...rossi gets bs in 2008 and defeats stoner who was red hot title favourite, he then continues to finish ahead of him every year until rossi joins ducati, who do nothing to improve their machine.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Dogbert - Chatter, Tyre Chunking and Losing the Plot - Circa 2006

Chatter is solely attributable to a rider's inability to progress the development of a bike's chassis and instead develop it backwards. Chunking is without doubt a rider's lack of understanding of how to set a bike up so that the tyres last a race distance.

Falling off in the last race and throwing the championship down the track with your bike is the sign of a fragile mind unravelling, unable to withstand the pressure of the simple task of starting from pole and only having to finish in the top half dozen to win the title.

It must be so - as Wosi says so.

 

Apart from the tiny tiny small print which says - unless the bike has 46 on it, then the rider shall be absolved of all blame

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simoncbr1000rr

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dogbert

He crashed...how does that constitute losing the plot???...missing races from nearly losing foot cost him the title....oh don't tell me the pressure made him crash blah blah blah.....get a life

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simoncbr1000rr

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acanada a couple of questions

How many times did stoner beat rossi while riding the ducati? How many times did rossi beat stoner whole riding the ducati?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

WTF..

..are you talking about Bulto?

For someone who keeps repeating over & over he doesn't give a toss, didn't say that and couldn't care less, you appear to be making an extra effort to look a whining & desperate little bitch this evening.

You've hit rock bottom Pal..and we all know who stuck you on your story telling, sorry yellow bellied arse..don't we?

Lay off the window licking you fruitcake.

 

Let's recap..go back to what Shuei Nakamoto had to say about Stoner's season and how it came apart..

"When Casey has confidence in himself and takes each race steadily, there is no other rider who can beat his speed. But then we had that crash in the final lap of Round Eight in Germany, and all our plans went out the window. In that race, he didn’t even need to win—finishing behind Dani would have been good enough. It was impatience that led to his crash and a no-point race result. And this led to his behavior at the following GP in Italy—he couldn’t calm down and get his set-up done properly, and rode a poor race to finish eighth which knocked him right back in the championship points table. If only he had finished properly in Germany, he would likely have ridden as steadily as usual in the following races and possibly would have escaped injury in Round 11 at Indianapolis. When it came to choosing his bike too, while Dani was full of praise for the new chassis, Casey reckoned it wasn’t much different and stuck with the older one. It wasn’t just Dani—Stefan liked the new chassis and used it for the final GP at Valencia, and when Alvaro tried it in the post-season test he also declared it excellent. Now that I think on it, pushing Casey to test the new bike after the Italy GP was maybe a mistake. I guess I should have waited a bit longer until he had regained his composure. If I’d waited, he might have been able to see things clearer and appreciate the quality of new bike."

Read more: http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_13010_honda_nakamoto_reveals_thoughts_on_2012_motogp_season/viewall.html#ixzz2MQQcdRzt

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acanada46

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acanada46 says:

simplesimon

You cant use that as a comparison, the duke stole a march on everyone in 2007 and then year on year went into decline as proven by stoners results.

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acanada46

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acanada46 says:

bultobollocks

Losing the plot circa 2006......then winning the title in 2008 and retaining it in 2009 , something stoner never achieved.....

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