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Stoner DNFs in V8 debut

Casey Stoner's V8 debut came to an abrupt halt after a punctured tyre saw him retire from the first race while in 13th place. He got off to a good start, impressing by qualifying 12th around the Adelaide street circuit, then moving up to 10th by the first five laps. However, he then dropped back to 13th, losing time through the slower...

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

stoner's sepang testing times

As I think I said when I first brought stoner's sepang testing times up it was because of wosi's continuing contention that stoner can only win on dominant bikes developed by other people which he then proceeds to develop backwards.

As we all know, the bike hrc ran in the 2012 season was not the one he had been testing for the past year, they changed the weight limit of the bike very close to the start of the season.

So if stoner was over a half a second faster than the best times this year the logical conclusion is either that he was a faster rider than the current riders or that the bike he was involved in testing/developing for a year was better than the current bikes.

If you are not wosi, sure track conditions etc can also affect times, but wosi has already stipulated in other discussions that such things are irrelevant and nothing except the times matter.

(EDIT) In regard to my discussion with you (I do sometimes confuse you and wosi) my reference to stoner's sepang times  was in respect of your attribution of rossi's problems in 2006 entirely to yamaha(which may be the case) but then attributing as is the wont of those of your ilk any problems stoner might have entirely to him. What he has said is that they had a chatter problem with the 2012 honda after the weight etc was changed and that the bike prior to that was fantastic. His times in testing perhaps support this.

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Farnarkle

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Farnarkle says:

The sailor's wisdom

Good heavens, DF, have yoiu never heard of the expression 'pissing into the wind'?

Whilst ever our good friend Wosi can find one figure to support his thesis  that Rossi is superior- even if that is so far from the average that it is beyond the horizon of the universe - he will cling to it like a starved baby to its mother's breast.  But at least give him the benefit of applause for making the attempt to 'prove' his hypothesis - the unineuronic mob of zombiefied Rossiboppers simply spout vitriol in the expectation that repetition equals validation.  I do believe the flat-earth society uses the exact same technique, with the exact same response from the non-intellectually-challenged majority of society: 'you're a pack of fuckwits'.

The Stoner-developed 2012 bike (with minimal input from a debilitated Pedrosa) was demonstrably proof in the first Sepang test that Stoner had defined a winning bike - to the tune of around a 10-second advantage in the average race - unless you accept that Stoner's riding was worth at least 10 seconds over anybody else's in a race.  The concept that anybody other than Rossi could have potential superiority is so far removed from Dorna's thinking - and the thinking of the insensate Rossiboppers as exemplified by Wosi et al., that a remedy had to be found. It was, and the Dorna-ordained story rolled on - except that Rossi still failed to perform.

But what is that to us now? - just history, albeit denied by the Rossicrucians. Relax, brother.

 

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Where would this forum be

Farnarkle without the discussions/banter between Wosi and Doohanfan - even the non-intellectually challenged are entitle to comment - laugh cry or get angry but don't mute it.

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DogBert

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DogBert says:

At the risk of repeating myself

The Stoner-developed 2012 bike (with minimal input from a debilitated Pedrosa)

The guy finished third in the championship. If we are to hold Casey up as the best thing since sliced bread, you can't then bitch about weight changes, changes that the other two Aliens had to cope with.

You all sound as paranoid as Casey himself. Jorge and Pedro got on with the job and took the title almost to the wire, Casey failed in 2012.


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AlexDAbomB69

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Casey

Casey Stoner - Statistics:
Between his very first race win at the age of nine and the age of fourteen, Stoner won 41 dirt and long track titles and 70 state titles.
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Casey Stoner finished the 2008 season as runner-up to Rossi with 280 points, the highest amount of points ever gained without taking the title at that time.
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Stoner's championship win in 2007 was the first title for Ducati in MotoGP.
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Stoner's worst finish of the 2007 MotoGP season was 6th place at Motegi, which was all he needed to capture the title.
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Casey Stoner, Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo and Sete Gibernau are the only four racers to have won the Qatar MotoGP round.
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Stoner captured the first win and title of the 800cc era in 2007 and the last in 2011
 

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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Rossi

Valentino Rossi - Statistics:
Rossi has matched Mike Hailwood and Carlo Ubbiali with nine titles in all classes. Only Agostini (with 15) has more.
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Rossi's win in Assen in 2009 made him only the second rider in history to take 100 wins in all classes. Rossi currently has 103, 19 less than Agostini's all-time record of 122.
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Valentino Rossi already holds the all-time premier class victories record, having beaten Agostini's tally at Indianapolis in 2008. Rossi now holds a premier-class win tally of 77.
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Rossi's win at Brno in 2009 saw him take the all-time podium record with his 160th podium in all classes. He is also the only rider to have stood on the podium in the premier-class more than 100 times.
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With 44 wins from 102 races since he joined the Yamaha Factory Team in 2004, Rossi is the most successful Yamaha rider of all time. He has 21 more wins than Kenny Roberts, Yamaha's next most successful rider.
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Valentino Rossi has won more titles for Yamaha than for any of the other manufacturers he has ridden for in his career.
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He is the only rider in history to have won at least one GP in 14 successive seasons.
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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Both really rather good

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weskit

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weskit says:

rossicrucians

that's f**king brilliant. Wosi is your puppy toilet trained yet?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

No..

but he could probably ride a bike faster than you without falling off weskit..unless he got target fixation on a juicy bone at the side of a track and jumped off.

You got that ABS sorted yet?

 

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

After 2 races in a totally new sport he is 23rd with a DNF & a 14th... his 1st two races in MotoGP he was 6th & 5th, so, unsurprisingly, not so impressive... Rossi's 1st two races in MotoGP were 2 DNF's (followed by 11th) leaving him plumb joint last, proving that... well... it proves nothing.

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