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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati explains Austin test absence

Ducati has confirmed financial and technical reasons were behind its decision not participate in the forthcoming MotoGP test at the new Circuit of the Americas in Texas. The three-day test was initially privately arranged by HRC for Dani Pedrosa and Marc Marquez, but Yamaha’s factory squad will now also attend with Valentino Rossi and reigning world champion Jorge Lorenzo. LCR Honda...

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Alex...

A Ducuzi?

:biggrin:

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

"Ya crusty fart"

You see, now you've hit the nail on the head. Stick to the facts, as above, and we'll be best of chums before you know it!

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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Steady CHR

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racingfan99

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racingfan99 says:

testing

Apologies for being slightly ‘off subject’ but does anyone know when the Bridgestone contract is up for renewal? I think Dorna need to seriously think again before maintaining the ‘single tyre manufacturer’ rule.

I say this because since Bridgestone became the single tyre supplier, it is widely accepted that the races have become boring. Maybe Bridgestones fault and maybe not – who knows for sure? There was no doubt at the time that the single tyre rule was introduced that Michelin had certainly taken their eye off the ball. Their tyres were poor to dangerous towards the end and race results were affected because of that.
Tyres are as crucial to a bike as any other part but Dorna has not introduced a single frame/exhaust/engine/shocks or brake rule. So why did they do it with tyres?
Who is to say that now by opening the doors to any other tyre manufacturer that Ducati’s handling issues may very well be solved by sticking a set of Dunlops/Pirellis/ Michelins on it? As the Jap bikes seem to handle sweetly on Bridgestones perhaps this is to the detriment of the way the Duke performs. Who actually knows?
Since the single tyre rule we also now have multi compound tyres of 2 or 3 differences and who’s to say we don’t eventually get to a ridiculous stage of having 10 compounds across one tyre? Let’s get back to an open market and allow anyone to produce a cheaper and less specific more generic tyre that the bikes have to work with. All our road tyres work fairly well from -5 to 30 degrees so I’m sure there is a middle ground somewhere rather than have a Bridgestone only working at its optimum with a 5 degree window.

If Suzuki do produce a Motogp bike and go to a few tests, why don’t Dorna allow an open tyre test for the bike and give the other manufacturers a chance? I also reckon the other manufacturers may be able to supply product at a lower cost than Bridgestones.
 

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DogBert

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DogBert says:

I have the strangest sense...

...of déjà vu...

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racingfan99

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racingfan99 says:

Dogbert you are absolutely right. No idea how I managed this a full day later. Sorry all.

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bluehaze60

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bluehaze60 says:

Ducati should either scrap this project & start from scratch or pull out of moto gp, gobmaster Is right not to go but the bike needs serous input

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

COTA

Gobmeier has referenced finance twice in the above as a reason for not going.  Reading between the lines looks like Audi have allocated a limited  budget to Ducati's development. So much for the might and finance from Audi.

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Bootlegger

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Bootlegger says:

Save ass and build

I accept all your comments,yet stick to Gobmeier's angle. Going to Austin at that expense would have surely been a waste of Ducati's resources and time even under the current umbrella of VW/Audi.

And,yes the HRC bike has been an L-4 for some time.

Saturn,you are also right, its a Yamaha/HRC thang given prestige and available resources.

Ask the bloke who fell off the gravy train once he tried to prove yet again its not the bike, rather the rider. What's happening in Austin right now ? Not much to shout about I guess.

Bottom line. The accumulated and crunched algorithms post Sepang testing 2013 suggest Ducati have no business being there(Austin). Not in the same league as Yam/HRC right now,so why waste the time and money ?

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

My oh My

So much anger towards Ducati... What's eating at some people?  It's just bike racing, hardly the future of the world as we know it being dependent upon them taking part in a Texas test.

I agree with Bootlegger, what have they got to gain by being there? They have a test program and if they don't feel that there is any benefit to being there, who is in a position to question that. Maybe their test / development program won't see the next parts / changes available until Jerez, so why spend a vast amount of money to go to Texas with the same spec as the last Malaysia test. It won't get them closer to Honda or Yamaha. The test team may well be pounding the tracks now evaluating new ideas / parts destined for Jerez. Would it be worth interrupting that to go to Texas for little or no purpose?

At best, maybe they'd gain a couple of tenths advantage on their direct competition for the actual race due to having more data to draw from? So what, it counts for nothing in the overall plan which is to improve the bike throughout the season in readiness for next year. Doesn't matter if that has been said in previous seasons, it's a new season, new ownership, new focus and approach.

At the moment it seems as though they are sticking to the logical approach they said they'd take which is to begin with new riders and head of development, re-evaluate the bike they finished last season with, try as yet untested parts / ideas that were introduced for that bike and try to take a direction from that. It's fine people saying the bike needs a complete redesign and that they need a new engine, but what exactly do they build? Where do they start? Answer is they have started, at Malaysia 1.

It will be a slow process, why do people expect that they should cut the deficit to Honda or Yamaha in a few weeks and consider it more failure if they don't?

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