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Matthew Birt  says:

Valentino Rossi impressed by ‘beautiful’ Circuit of the Americas

Valentino Rossi might have been slowest on the opening day of the private Honda and Yamaha MotoGP test at the new Circuit of the Americas yesterday, but it didn't stop the Italian from falling in love with the long and technical Texas circuit. On a first day dominated by a lack of grip, Rossi ended fifth behind Marc Marquez, Dani Pedrosa,...

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DogBert

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DogBert says:

Armchairs

So I'm in one but you're not Bulto? Guess Nakamoto's an armchair pundit too is he? The boss of HRC with decades of experience in F1 and motogp, but you dismissed him 'cause he couldn't ride a motogp bike out of pit lane. What does that say about your pomposity?

Let's quote the clueless HRC boss on Casey's downfall last year:
In that race, he didn’t even need to win—finishing behind Dani would have been good enough. It was impatience that led to his crash and a no-point race result. And this led to his behavior at the following GP in Italy—he couldn’t calm down and get his set-up done properly, and rode a poor race to finish eighth which knocked him right back in the championship points table. If only he had finished properly in Germany, he would likely have ridden as steadily as usual in the following races and possibly would have escaped injury in Round 11 at Indianapolis.

Of course Bulto's singing "lalalalala" 'till the end of that quote then will mention Laguna, by which time Casey's title challenge is flailing. Or he'll call Nakamoto a quack, and insist he knows better.

"Which he may have thought himself..." HA doofan! Butboy criticises me for armchair pyschology, you back him up, then come up with your own half baked pyschobabble apology for Casey quitting. Priceless!

Listen doofan, I don't have comments going back to 2010, but I'll tell you, I thought Casey was performing minor miracles on that bike at the time. As for development, well we've seen that the real culprit here is Ducati. Stoner said they wouldn't listen to him, they sent Melandri to a shrink, and one can only assume Rossi gave the same feedback he'd been giving for 10 years at Honda and Yamaha. But of course what we're supposed to swallow now from the Stonerites is that Rossi suddenly gave Ducati a bum steer. It's a pretty poor effort from these self proclaimed big brains on here.

And now after nearly 5 or more years of being told their bike doesn't work they're trying to fix it, while on a PR crusade to rubbish Rossi. They deserve vilification from all sides for their attitude.

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

No dogbert

I don't blame valentino for the the 2011 and 2012 bikes, but I don't think stoner deserves blame for those bikes or the 2010 bike either. Before that, I think ducati did pretty well considering their resources as opposed to the resources of their competitors. If you weren't putting the boot into stoner when he was down, my apologies for  grouping you with those who did; there was rather a lot of that, perhaps explaining while not justifying the current over the top rossi bashing.

   
As for stoner retiring, he didn't want to do it any more, end of story. People, including more than a few people with whom I have been personally acquainted, being paid millions of dollars to do high pressure jobs and who have coped with the pressure  decide to retire and smell the roses all the time.
 
All credit to those who have kept it going at the pinnacle of the sport for longer, in valentino's case obviously much longer.

Otherwise, so what ?

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Hey DogVomit, I have a question for you...

Would you rather see a rider try to win or settle for second?

Ducati are NOT the only manufacturer to fall behind but they always had multiple wins/podiums/poles etc. If your boyfriend was any chop, he would have achieved SOMETHING with the resources poured into his tenure but the fact is, he couldn't manage it with the world at his feet. It's clear the duc needed someone special to close the gap to the japs, Stoner did it with what he was given and very little else.

I'm no fan of a company run by cocksuckers like Del Touchio but those lazy eyetie pretty boys don't deserve the amount of blame apportioned to them by the Flossi fanatics. There are some very unreasonable views expressed when it comes to those worshipping the yellow.

 

 

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

No Dogbert

I didn't 'dismiss' Nakamoto. I was referring to his comment that Stoner refused the new chassis 'which was better'.

Nakamoto's opinion about the chassis being better is based upon the fact that Pedrosa and Bradl liked it better than the current one. So how does that make it "better". Since when have all riders had the same preferences when it comes to components? Do both riders in a team use exactly the same components and set up?

What I said was how can Nakamoto state conclusively that the chassis was better as he doesn't have the riding skill to evauate either. I refer to Laguna because Stoner went there on the back of two bad results and smashed Pedrosa using the old chassis. By your reckoning, for Stoner, bad results cause mind problems, therefore he shouldn't have had the result he did. Neither should hhe have won on the old chassis because it was the wrong decision.

His title challenge was hardly failing by Laguna.

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ThePornstar

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ThePornstar says:

Fan boys...

You bitches really need to get out more....!!

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BarkerBill

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BarkerBill says:

Fanny boys

Only two contributors here worth any singular form of mention -

1)The clueless HRC boss on Casey's downfall last year.  SPOT ON

2) ThePornstar for pointing out the resident bitches ain't seeing enough of the real world.  COCK ON

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