Past and present
its no good arguing over what an rider, may have done on whoevers bike, at whatever given period in time, because it cant never be proven what would actually have happened.
We can only draw logical conclusions based on the evidence available, without being swayed with personal preferences.
My believe/opinions are these, and yes they have altered over time as the evidence has changed.
1. Rossi has been the most shrewd and consistent rider of the past 16 years and deserved his standing in the sport. Yes he has his weakness'es ego, minding games abit of favouritism from the organisers( due to the crowd he pulls in) and the Stoner fans loath him for it, he's everything Casey wasnt.
2. Stoner was/is a totally different animal, he had to do it the hard way( no sliver spoon like Rossi) and battle his way to the top. His fast but crash filled style created a image (undeserved it turns out) as fast but pushing to hard.
Faster than anyone on his day but lacked the common sense to ride for points when required to wins titles instead of races. If i was his manager i would tell him that was a flaw. Sorry IMHO
3. Ducati the little factory that they are/were punched above their weight in 07 and came up with a bike and rider package that was better than everything else that every and fully deserved the title. But what changed there after?
4.Yamaha and honda quickly caught up and then passed them in the technological side of things, better run teams bigger budgets and let ducati floundering as the gap has widened every year.
5.The bike are so computer controlled now ,eveyones greatest rider (whoever they think it is) couldnt beat a good rider on a brilliant bike (spies in the fly in the ointment in that theory) The human brain cant react faster than a computer
Pedrosa hasnt suddenly rasied it to another level after 7 years, his bike is the best AND he's always been a top rider, maybe half a percent short of the very best thats all.
Stoner proved that with all he did achieve at Ducati after 07 with his race wins and podiums , but the bike still went backwards didnt it.?
So Rossi made a stupid 80 second fix jibe/joke? stupid to the exstreme as it turned out. Desperate measures to try sort at a flawed package, having to find an overnight miracle solution that was never there.
Rossi and Stoner are both right Ducati cant deal with criticism and need to head back to the drawing board.
All the argument and counter argument are just fanboy points scoring on both sides in here and gets very dull at times ( but can full up time if your very bored)