Get you paranoid shit together DF..
I'm not talking about Stoner specifically..just using him in the context of modern riders and their bikes, compared to likes of Biaggi.
I'm not asking for his titles to be stripped..just pointing out he won very little before 2007 on the Ducati and, the dominance he showed that season was never repeated until he jumped on another stand-out package in 2011, on which he failed to outshine his team mate the following year.
Casey Stoner was an amazing talent..unbelieveably fast on his day and dynamite straight out the box. It was difficult to understand how he did it. His time at Ducati propped up the factory and confused Preziosi who thought his bike was a lot better than it actually was.
This was Ducati's mistake..not Stoners. They said they had realised it and wanted to make a bike for everyone..then lost their bottle to implement the wholesale change required and blamed Rossi, the bloke they'd paid fortunes to entrust the direction of that change.
They are in a dark place right now and have nobody to blame but themselves.
Saying this, Stoner was lead rider and must have given feedback. Granted, he was very young with little experience outside Bologna but there is little doubt the bike stagnated. His results back this up and to my mind, he must take some responsibility.
The same as he must take some responsibility for his decisions in 2012..the way rode and managed his championship challenge, which failed.
As a bloke his spiky personality was his worst enemy..I'd add petulant and juvenile to Saturns list. Nakamoto agrees and said that Casey was immature.
You cannot divorce Stoners attitude and the way he went about his business from his record. The kid won two titles which is fantastic compared to 99% of the riders who compete at the highest level.
But, you just know he thinks it should have been more by listening to his excuses why not..he ain't a happy bunny.
Saying you made a mistake is one thing..altering your approch to make sure it doesn't happen again is how we learn and grow up, and is another thing altogether. Older & wiser as they say.
Stoner thought he was above this basic requirement and that talent alone would see him right..he was wrong.