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Matthew Birt  says:

Andrea Dovizioso can lead Ducati revival in 2013

Andrea Dovizioso has the experience and talent to revive Ducati’s flagging fortunes in the MotoGP world championship. That’s the belief of the Italian’s former Monster Yamaha Tech 3 boss Herve Poncharal, who watched the former 125GP world champion become the most successful rider in the French team’s history in 2012. Dovizioso scored six podiums last season but unable to secure the factory...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Do what..

Are you stupid Nostro?..I'm speaking gisticulativly ffs.

Ist race the testing started because Rossi knew what a good bike felt like, Stoner didn't..and..if it was a click and a millimetre away, how come Gabbarini and Stoner didn't suss it until September 2010? They'd only been working with the bike FOUR years after all?

From the man who insists Stoner was no faster on the Honda and said if he'd been riding the bike in 2011 the chances were good he could have taken the title..forgive me for not taking you seriously Pal.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

How about these then Wosi

Some more of Burgess' opinions from an interview at that first Valencia test. Seems he has a different take on things than you do:

But the problem at the front was real?
"Yes, but I'm still not convinced that the Ducati has a real problem at the front. I do not think the bike is a mess so serious that we can not solve if not changing the project. I repeat: I believe that the problems have been determined mostly by the physical limits of Valentino. "

But he has a particular guide.
"Yes, but Casey could have won many more races this year. And if Valencia had not chosen a tire too hard, would probably have dominated as it did in Japan and Australia. This means that the bike has closed the season on a high. "

Stoner crashed a lot and he often declared no feeling with the front.
"In most cases, has made ​​mistakes early in the race, never at the end: this means that he drove too hard, not that the bike has betrayed him. He put too much pressure on him in the first six or seven rounds. He fell for it. "

Ducati have had a hand in the project, after two days in Valencia.
"Yes, but they are not upsetting the bike. And rightly so, because the situation of the Ducati at the end of 2010 you can not even compare to that of the Yamaha at the end of 2003. The Desmosedici is a bike that wins races, which always fight for the podium. Yamaha of those times had been only one podium finish in the year, the rest was always far behind. "

So you think just working on fine-tuning?
"I think that will solve the problems that are present on the Ducati, as well as those we have solved the Yamaha. My only regret is that we can not pick up the pace until Valentino will not give the true information. But at the same time I am calm because we can afford to wait: the Ducati bike is already competitive. And I know that from the moment when Valentino will come back strong physically, we will be able to make large advances quickly. "

And just for you, how about this remark on the CF frame from early 2011:

But Rossi’s Aussie crew chief Jerry Burgess reckons Rossi’s problem doesn’t automatically necessitate major changes to the Ducati carbon fibre chassis.

Speaking to MCN, Burgess said: “You could think the changes might be with the frame, but it could easily be an engine response problem. The basic hardware in the engine, there are lots of things that fly around and they all contribute a lot.

And I'm manipulating nothing and there is no intention of bias. If you and others keep on with this line that Burgess and Rossi are infallible, shit gold bars and pass water the quality of Moet's finest, I'll keep throwing these quotes back at you.

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

By the way

Ist race the testing started because Rossi knew what a good bike felt like, Stoner didn't..

Don't you maintain Stoner was on a top tier LCR Honda in 2006 and did nothing but crash it. Therefore he would have known what a good bike felt like.

So which WAS it? Good LCR - Bad LCR?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Crikey..

..you have been busy but unfortunately, it doesn't have the slightest bearing on what I pulled you up earlier for. You were bias and manipulative in that instance.

Look..we all know Burgess and Rossi underestimated Stoners efforts - the same as most of us - but that doesn't make the CF D16 a competitive bike..what did you expect him to say, of course there is a certain amount of bravado and optimism at the start. Didn't last long though did it. First race I believe?

All RCV990's were good and there was no such thing as third rate tyres..Stoner just crashed his brains out, same as usual.

How can you know what a good bike feels like if you're constantly falling off the fkr?

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Oh yes there were Wosi

The Saturday Night Specials for Rossi, the normal A grade tyres for contracted factory team riders, and then the B grade rubber for non factory contracted teams which Rossi wouldn't even put on his pit bike.

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

nostro maybe right for once

in theory i hope are in some way shape or form correct about ducati being nearer the front again, the series needs more action and not just with two factory teams involved.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Yes but No but Yes but No...

Busy? yes, I've spent a very cold day in the garage fettling. I came in for a play on the 'net and a warm.

Do I detect ducking, diving, sidesteps and backflipping?...

My original comment in quotes misrepresented nothing, I just condensed several statements into one, rather than quote the whole lot. It's all there below. I've mentioned nothing he didn't and nothing out of context.

Third rate tyres - Michelin used to design tyres for every track but not for all riders. Some got 'generic' tyres. Then some, usually one, got the SNS. So yes, Stoner did have worse quality tyres than the front runners and a customer spec RCV. Not hard to see why someone hell bent on winning crashed it a few times trying to keep pace with those on much better equipment.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

fks sake..

So..only Rossi got SNS tyres?

I take it he is the usually one you refer to?

They weren't available to any other riders on works equipment with a Michelin contract?

You wouldn't be trying to manipulate shit to back up bias again Bulto?

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carcleanerboy

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Best of luck to the boys

For tomorrow, race season starts at snetterton, sadly wont be there as my partners op was bigger than we thought so ive had stay home. Keep it rubber side up it looks like a difficult one with this weather...

Team donkeyboxracing...

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73mach3

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73mach3 says:

happy birthday geoff duke

happy 90th

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