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Andy Downes  says:

Motorcyclists not to blame in most accidents

New data from more than 1600 motorcycle accident last year have shown 80% of accidents were caused by other road users; a fact that flies in the face of controversial BBC programme ‘How Safe are Britain’s Roads?’ shown last year. The BBC show claimed ‘loss of control on a bend’ was the main cause of motorcycle accidents but of the 1679...

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

Great to see the truth we all suspected all the time. How about a public retraction by the BBC? Don't hold your breath waiting for that!

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wesley01

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wesley01 says:

No chance

Hell I could have said so! I am an emergency care assistant and driving a great big merc ambulance that weighs 4.5 tonnes and is yellow with sirens and flashing blue lights. Low and behold car drivers still dont even know I am there, so there is little to no hope with their observations or hearing!

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Insurers vs Pravda?

I'd go ahead and assume they're both full of it.

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OrangeTigerXC

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BBC fabrications plc

I think we all knew this all along, I remember swearing at the TV when I watched that programme, but I gave up all hope of getting any truthfull stories from the BBC years ago.

If theres ever a story about a subject that anyone knows anything about, it soon becomes clear that the BBC tend to fabricate most of their stories. I suppose it's cheaper than paying researchers!

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superbol

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superbol says:

wesley01

You`re bang on the button there sir .Only this morning I was out with pupil and in distance oncoming was a ambulance blues n 2s behind a grade A twat going along in a world of his own .I flashed headlights pointed like hell dickhead was totally oblivious and even car a distance flashed aswell .

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Robell

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Robell says:

Hardly suprising that the beeb's "research" is shown to be dodgy.

However, being able to lay the blame at someone else's door, doesn't make an accident hurt any less.

There's a huge amount we can do to avoid the myopic muppets. Ride safe folks.

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FellRaven

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FellRaven says:

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

From you figures 19% are single vehicle accidents, which usually means it's your fault (Mud on the road, collision with Deer etc etc I know but it doesn't give that info here. So 19% definitely the Riders fault. Of the remaining 81% it says that in 44% action was taken against the other party to recover losses. So that means in 56% of the accidents it was either shared liability (knock for knock)or the riders fault. So 56% of 81% is 45% add the initial 19% and you get 64% So in 64% of accidents the riders was fully or partly responsible. This would fit with the Riders mostly responsible. Would you like to explain where you get you 80% from?

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

FellRaven!

The 56% you are attributing to bikers is supposition on your part as you don't know the details. There could be many reasons for not being able to make a claim such as the lack of evidence in a case on here recently. I'm sure that if what you say is the truth, the insurance people would pounce on us for higher premiums as I'm sure they won't have favourites, just a good reason to hammer people for their standard of driving/riding.Whose side are you on anyway?

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FellRaven

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FellRaven says:

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

Hi SatNavSteve and just pointing out how poorly researched the article is. I think we would all except that there are some bikers who will never accept they were at all responsible for an accident. I live in Devon near the A377 and there have been many bank holiday accidents involving bikers mis-judging the corners or their abilities. The same is true of car drivers but taking a holier than thou position will not improve the situation.

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domster

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domster says:

Steve

Put me on the 'side' of responsible attentive road users. It's not an 'accident' when an operator of any vehicle crashes into another but the result of errors of judgement by both parties. Ride to live etc...

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