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Andy Downes  says:

Motorcyclists not to blame in most accidents

New data from more than 1600 motorcycle accident last year have shown 80% of accidents were caused by other road users; a fact that flies in the face of controversial BBC programme ‘How Safe are Britain’s Roads?’ shown last year. The BBC show claimed ‘loss of control on a bend’ was the main cause of motorcycle accidents but of the 1679...

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

Well guys, if I was going to believe anyone as to who is responsible in accidents, it would be the insurers who have all the details and not some unconnected person making guesses, unless of course, you work in the insurance industry. When you say the article is poorly researched, do you mean by MCN or the quoted insurance spokesman? I'm sure we don't need to know every detail of every accident to be convinced that what they say is the truth. Insurance companies have a vested interest in knowing who is at fault in accidents so that they can adjust the premiums according to risk. I'm sure we aren't going to see faultless bikers involved in accidents jumping up and shouting 'No, blame me please'. And Domster, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that both parties in an accident are at fault every time because I've read your comment a few times and thats what it sounds like.

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HOSBUSA

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HOSBUSA says:

1st of all I hate the BBC.

Now thats out the way, is anyone surprised the biased and bigoted BBC made up a tabloid style news tale about bikers?  The Biased against Bikers Corporation aka state owned media?

 

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rlf3

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rlf3 says:

Confession time

I watched the programme.

My thoughts were that it made valid points and the general sentiment was spot-on.

So confession time...

I have had a number of collisions with other vehicles including a nasty smidsy and have also "lost control on a bend" several times.

If I'm being perfectly honest 100% of these collisions were either entirely or mostly my fault, even the smidsy.

I have never once had a collision which was entirely someone else's fault.

If all motorcyclists (and MCN) were similarly honest with themselves there would be a squadron of pigs in the air.

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WindyMiller75

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Wait, What?

"81% [...] involved another vehicle"

"80% [...] caused by other road users"

So, in almost 99% of all incidents involving both a motorbike and another road user, the other road user caused the incident? Really?

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threlly

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threlly says:

Accidents and the BBC

lets just agree the BBC is the goverments propaganda channel for whatever crap they want you to believe.

 

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aaustin2911

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aaustin2911 says:

BBC - Bulls**t Broadcasting Coporation

Maybe Jeremy Clarkson and top gear should write these programmes at least the they would be clear that its fictional.

But truth be told - a lot of the accidents are caused by bikers - going to fast, not reading roads and over estimating their bike and their own capabilities. Of the 4 times I have come off (at low speeds/drops) in 12 years of biking 3 were me misjudging conditions and 1 was oil, the only time I had a hi-speed near miss was a car driver pulling out between me and another biker out on a sunday.(thank god I had ABS)

Heck, this morning a saw a hairdrying undertaking a HGV lorry on a tight roundabout - he would have deserved to have been knocked off - you could see the lorry driving take avoiding action 

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squizzar

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squizzar says:

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics - try again

44% of claims with a third party aspect involved a claim for personal injury. The missing statistic is a breakdown of the blame in accidents involving a third party. The article doesn't seem to add up here. Is it: 20% of accidents are single motorcycle 80% of accidents involve other vehicles And of the 80% involving a third party: 81% are the fault of the third party 19% are the fault of the motorcyclist/50-50? 44% result in the motorcyclist making a personal injury claim against the third party. The 80%/81% figures are mentioned in the article but it is not very clear whether they are meant to be interpreted as I have done above.

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