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Matthew Birt  says:

Jorge Lorenzo boss: Hard to repeat 2012 consistency

Reigning world champion Jorge Lorenzo’s factory Yamaha team boss Wilco Zeelenberg has admitted repeating the stunning consistency of 2012 will be a tough challenge for the Spaniard. Lorenzo clinched his second MotoGP world title last season without ever finishing lower than second, which included six victories in Qatar, Le Mans, Catalunya, Silverstone, Mugello and Misano. But Zeelenberg said repeating that remarkable sequence...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Why 2013 will be more difficult for Lorenzo than 2012

Jorge set the bar extremely high last year through brilliant riding, aided and abetted by mistakes from the HRC boys as well as having lady luck on his side. If you read the post race transcripts you'll see Jorge had plenty of moments that could've ended in tears - even when he was supposedly just trying to reel the championship in. He had to ride that hard throughout the year. A very deserved champion though.

Pedrosa started 2012 unable to get to grips with the late additional weight added to his machine and then took time to adapt to the new Rossi spec rubber. But once he left port properly it was spinnaker up and full steam ahead. Only his unforced error at P.I robbed us of a thrilling season finale.  Stoner made a mistake at the Sachsenring and then another at Indy with his crippling ankle break, but was always competitive.

A little additional weight and the same Rossi spec rubber in 2013 and the YMC boys are complaining about a lack of edge grip. Both ride in a very similar manner, high corner speed flow. Jorge just a faster smoother version of the world nr.6. This grip issue will be Jorge's main problem with his title defence if YMC do not get to grips with the problem early.

As Matt Oxley pointed out in an article last year the optimal cornering technique through the years has alternated between a 'U' and a 'V'. The 800's were predominantly about the U which prolonged Rossi's career no doubt. The re-introduction of the litre bikes with their additional acceleration has seen the curve move back towards a 'V' once more in conjunction with the softer sidewalled tyres. Although it was noticeable 2012 that Lorenzo has improved his ability to pick the bike up quickly coming out of corners, he's still not in Pedrosa's league. Marquez seems to have this ability instinctively. He was very dynamic on the Moto2 machine, earlier on the gas than others and got labelled a cheat for it?! He's got the requisite MotoGP style stamped all over him already.

Hark back to the Rainey and Cadalora Marlboro days. On a few occasions Cadalora could be untouchable with his wide sweeping lines. But it was hard accelerating Rainey that did most of the winning.

Both techniques work for sure and Lorenzo is an absolute master of his craft - I'd never rule him out of any race for the win. But for me the edge lies with the HRC boys for the reasons of rubber and riding style. The machines are inseparable performance wise.

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yzrm1

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yzrm1 says:

Nice

Notradamus.   Nice writing. And you could be(probably are) right. but i still believe in Jorge for high speed racing distance. But Yes the Honda's are faster out of the corners. I hope 1 thing for this season at the beginning, and you didn't notice that, the Yamaha seamless gearbox. that should drop the time's also a little. but above all good writing

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1986vfr750

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1986vfr750 says:

Agreed for the most part. The real end of pedrosas challenge though came at misano curtesy of dickhead barbara thinking that he was racing pedrosa instead of merely being a moving chicane that dani had to navigate. Watching barbara attempt to dive back underneath dani after dani was past was just stupid...they are not racing equals. From then on pedrosa had to take huge risks which finally caught up to him in philip. In hindsight, he should have been more patient...but it was great seeing dani become a true alien last year...he showed a ton of heart...both casey and jorge threw in the towel in those situation the previous 2 years; but not dani...he fought to the bitter end. He was not going to beat casey at philip,but he had to try to put casey between him and jorge for 9 pnts instead of 4. Jorge rode very well and also saved a Huge moment at misano which also could have changed everything. This year should be fantastic with more riders capable of being on the podium than there are spots on said podium...we will get a good taste in a weeks time how ready everyone is

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Gearbox smearbox again

Thks YZRM1 but;

http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-burgess-honda-gearbox-not-rocket-science/

 

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Prior to 2012..

..Dani averaged 2.5 wins a year over 6 title-less seasons.

Now Nostro wants us to believe that with his superior skill, he's the only one capable of using the fat part on corner exit and the bike has fk all to do with him winning 7 races last year?

Oh dear, how sad, nevermind..

Nice blather though. 

 

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simoncbr1000rr

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wonder what the....

Chances of new tyres part way through the season are?......that suddenly for no explicable reason are required (just like not long ago when ducati were struggling for grip)which may suddenly fix yamaha edge grip problems....oh no not me sir, I couldn't possibly think desperatella would force bridgestone to make new hoops to help rossi.....this isn't like the michelin days when they flew special tyres only for rossi to use overnight.....so burgess and rossi could claim to have found a miraculous setup sunday morning for sundays race....oh no sir I never suggested that

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cornbowl

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cornbowl says:

A downer,

that reads to me that Zeelenberg already has doubts about the reigning world champ, not a statement his No.1 rider needs for the new season. Lorenzo has shown he's still got top race pace over distance, maybe Zeelenberg is more concerned about the new talent on the Honda, never mind Dani, or of course Yam's No2. 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ha, ha Wosi at his sophistic best

Pedrosa's seven wins 2012 didn't suit his argument so he simply ignores the fact?!

Dani's not the only one who can do it Wosi. He's simply the best at it. You choose to ignore this fact as well and make it out to be some HRC HP acceleration advantage. When they all have 250+ HP to play with, only a fraction of which gets used on the first touch of the throttle,  you're simply having a laugh.

So come on Wosi. In all honesty, who's your pick for the title and why?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

haha..

Bradl..because you wrote him off.

Seriously?..Rossi because he wants it, will only get faster and has the experience and cool smarts..Despite that dog of an M1 with a crash gearbox. 

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carcleanerboy

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Lorenzo for me, very clinical and gets the very best out of his bike it can offer every round. If he has a moment, he brings it home in the highest postion it can safely attain, very calculating,

It gonna be tight though, similar win ratios as last year, evenly spread around and no one running away with it.

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