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Diablere

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Diablere says:

Police officer Killed on unmarked police bike

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-22019006

i feel very sad for family and friends etc, but lets wait and see what the reaction to this is shall we?

there won't be any unmarked police bikes on the roads for a few months thats for sure.

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Fspider

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Fspider says:

Regardless of how I feel about police in general

He was still a brother rider who was taken before his natural time. RIP man, and my deepest condolences to his family. 

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Diablere

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Diablere says:

i think thats my problem with this

is he wasn't a "brother" rider.

 his SOLE purpose for being on an UNMARKED bike was to "entrap" or capture other bikers breaking the law. and yet he has died from the same Reason and risks that all of us face every day and sadly claims so many of us.

With a few high profile cases recently where car drivers have walked scott free from killing or seriously injuring motorcyclists i find i'm facing a huge amount of cynicism about this already.

lets see what has happens with this i think?

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wacca1

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wacca1 says:

Or perhaps

he was a surveillance motorcyclist, following major criminals or terrorists...who knows.

 

The fact is a young man is dead, leaving behind family and friends. I also expect that during his career he did more good for society that most people ever will.

 

Rest in peace.

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vulcanrider

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vulcanrider says:

Diablere

A profound and a brave statement. I echo your feelings on this as sad as his death is. As you say lets see what the outcome of the investigation is. Whatever his duties were my own cynicism dictates that there may be a little more effort put into the investigation. Remember the recent case of a female police officer killing a motorcyclist near Bournemouth and walking free without prosecution.

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Fspider

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Fspider says:

Diablere although I understand were you are coming from...

From a personal point of view here's my reasoning.

With out going into things to deeply, for over 30 years of my life I have been involved in conflict. Both for my country and in the private security sector.
We have always had a respect for the fallen no matter what colours he wore. We would always respectfully tend to the fallen, even if the fallen was deemed the enemy.
These ethics of respectability are what make us decent English men IMO. And this practice has and is adhered to by many civilised nations for a thousand years.
The mans died and I am sorry for that because of the above reasons, more so if he has left children behind.
A mans got to stand for what he believes, no matter what he believes.

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vulcanrider

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vulcanrider says:

Fspider

you are not the only ex serviceman on this forum, there are more than you know.

I'm personally cynical about the British police 'service' having seen it fail in its duties to me and my family. My own son (ex serviceman) was failed and let down by his own police 'service' while a serving officer.

Neither Diablere or myself celebrate the death of a police officer but, our cynicism is fed by personal observations and experience.

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spondonste

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spondonste says:

Sympathies to the family

Simon Hayes comments:-

"This tragic incident highlights the fact that police officers regularly put themselves at risk in performing their duty and in protecting the public."

 

Bikers experience those very same risks daily however the courts hold the riders life somewhat in contempt. We shall see if another ignorant myopic driver gets off scot free again because they happen to kill somebody riding a motorbike.

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Fspider

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Fspider says:

Hey Vulcanrider

At no point did I say or suggest that I was the only ex service man on here. So secure that shit brother.

I mearly stated why I wished the dead man RIP.
One can still be respectful of the dead for Christ sake.

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vulcanrider

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vulcanrider says:

Secure that shit

yeh righto --- brother :wacko:

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calamityjane

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calamityjane says:

I can't believe what i'm reading

A man has died. Does it matter what job he does? I get sick of people lambasting the police. 'He wasn't our brother'! Any other occupations in that category we should add?

I bet the police are the first people you would call if you were burgled, your bike was pinched etc.

I've just watched through tears the hillsborough documentary. I knew people who went to the match that day. Police tried to cover their tracks and blame it on the fans. Was it the little guy on the ground? No, as usual the higher echelons.

Sometimes we need to take a step back and think a little.

R.I.P.

 

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