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Matthew Birt  says:

Jorge Lorenzo expresses grip concerns

The chances of Jorge Lorenzo adding victory in Sunday’s first Circuit of the Americas (COTA) MotoGP race to his opening round triumph in Qatar appear close to zero. The Spaniard was no match for Honda trio Marc Marquez, Dani Pedrosa and Stefan Bradl in yesterday’s opening two 45-minute practice sessions and he finished well over a second off the best pace. The...

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DogBert

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DogBert says:

Nearly 5 tenths behind Bradl

And over a second behind the Repsol's. It's all technique though, nothing to do with the bike. Jorge just isn't as good as the Honda boys.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

As normal, people jumping to all sorts of conclusions and predictions following one practise session. Pedrosa has already been written off.

Now look at the latest session. Pedrosa now ahead of MM and Lorenzo comfortably ahead of Bradl and closed right up on MM.

None of us have a clue what they're doing in these practise sessions and even qualifying isn't all that critical on a bike when, unlike F1, places can be made up through the first few corners from 2nd or 3rd row. Practise times mean nothing for the top bunch in terms of race pace indication. Grid popsition doesn't equal race position.

It may look like a foregone conclusion for Honda victory but Lorenzo may still have other ideas. But Dogbert, if you watch them in the tight corners, from what I saw, the Hondas were turning very tight, sitting it up quicker and firing out. Both Rossi and Lorenzo are (or at least were at the time) taking wider arcs, complaining about edge grip and losing time.

Technique still has a lot to do with it. Stoner did it on two different bikes. Is a wide arc on the tyre edge the only way to ride the Yam?

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buelligan272

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buelligan272 says:

wrong bulto

Some of us do have a clue.It just might be something to do with the conditions improving and the temperature rising.
Barring accidents or breakdowns a Honda will win.


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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

Honda will win in my view Marquez v Lorenzo.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Of course Buell

That would be it then, I'll drink at the fountain of your knowledge.

So Pedrosa moved ahead of MM and Lorenzo closed up on MM because the temperature was higher and the track had more rubber on it. I see, those conditions favour Lorenzo and Pedrosa.

For Quali, the temperature was a bit warmer again and the track had yet more rubber on it. So Pedrosa should have extended his lead and Lorenzo should be about equal with MM.

But wait, is there a flaw in the theory?  MM seems to have jumped back in front of Pedrosa and extended his gap over Lorenzo again. How can that be - maybe because you haven't a clue after all..??

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pannyderosa

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pannyderosa says:

bultoboy

why do always come across as such a DICK?

GO Dani GO


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buelligan272

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buelligan272 says:

clueless

So Honda's 1 & 2 like most predicted.Seems like you stupid theories about Lorenzo were all wrong.

Panny you may have a point!

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

how about watching for a few more races,

particularly at the tighter European tracks, before assigning overall bike advantages etc? Jorge won at Qatar which has not traditionally been a Yamaha track, and even that bike with the "massive advantage" in 2007 was better suited to some tracks than others.

The main thing out of the season so far would seem to be that Marquez is rather good. Jorge finishing 3rd without any contributing mishaps rather than 2nd on a track which doesn't suit him is unusual on his form of recent years and COTA hence may be a Honda track, but the Yamahas seemed to have something extra engine wise at Qatar this year. 

I think it is still entirely possible that  talent was involved in Lorenzo winning and Rossi coming through the field at Qatar, and Marquez beating Pedrosa at COTA and Lorenzo out-performing his practice results at COTA.

There are always going to be tracks more suited to Honda than Yamaha and vice versa, particularly given that their design philosophy seems to differ.

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