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Matthew Birt  says:

Valentino Rossi hails ‘fantastic’ Cal Crutchlow

Valentino Rossi praised fellow Yamaha rider Cal Crutchlow after the Briton easily beat him to claim a fantastic fourth place finish in the first MotoGP race to be staged at the state-of-the-art Circuit of the Americas (COTA). Crutchlow was thrilled with his COTA debut after he claimed the scalps of Rossi and Stefan Bradl in the 21-lap clash. Both were expected to...

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DoubtingThomas

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Hmmm

I don't know. Seems a bit of a stretch to credit this Honda performance over the tests and the race weekend to the riders alone. Isn't that an insult to all the engineers working in Honda, to try and give the riders every advantage they can?

The top speed may not seem that much better over the Yamaha, but the acceleration out of each of those first gear corners looked to be.

 

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

So Nostro..

..are you suggesting that the machinery from each factory is multilaterally comparable at every track they race at, and there's never any advantage from one bike to the next?..

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DoubtingThomas

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Oompa Loompas are orange

That's right isn't it?

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BennytheRev

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BennytheRev says:

I think you'll find that gearing is the main issue here - Lorenzo certainly thinks so. He used 2nd gear (rather than 1st like Rossi) out of the 'bottom gear' corners, and was competitive as a consequence.

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dred0

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dred0 says:

Gearing and

stability during gear changes.. Simple really.. No need to get all upset. The Hondas were better at this track, simple.. Hence a Honda 1-2 here, but a Yamaha 1-2 last time out. No amount of name calling is going to change that.. Rossi was not fast enough, he knows it and so do we..

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revnev7

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revnev7 says:

HONDA TRACK??.....

Not really,but they got the set-up pretty damn good,but then they did have 3 full day`s of testing to get it sorted.And after the problem`s in Qatar,they kinda needed too.Maybe they gave Casey a call for some set-up advice? Either way,it was a cracking race for the top 4, at a track with a very similar average lap speed to Jerez. Lorenzo was very close to the Honda`s,in race spec,and Cal just rode the wheel`s off his satty bike.But then he did`nt have as much to lose as JL,he ain`t going for the title.Bradl needed a finish,and did pretty well as a none Work`s team rider. As for the last of the Work`s team rider`s,with a mere 2 test day`s to get his bike set-up,well what can you say,I do believe he was blaming the bike,can`t think where i`ve heard that before? Even the most piss stained of sheep must see he really is a no-hoper this year,just like last year and the one before that and...... And i do wish the "expert commentator`s" would stop comparing MM and CS,Casey did`nt start Moto GP on a Work`s machine,and when he did get one it was a Ducati ffs.

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DoubtingThomas

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You're right revnev7

The expert commentators should definitely stop comparing Marc with Casey, as it's quite clear, even at this early stage, that Marc is superior in every way.

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BennytheRev

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BennytheRev says:

Indeed dred0 ...

... gearing and stability during the gear change. 


The Honda riders could use more of the explosive, harsh, 250 bhp with a seamless shift 'box than the Yamaha's with their old-fashion, conventional gearbox. 

Crutchlow said the same at Phillip Island last year - he couldn't risk a mid-corner gear change. Lorenzo made the same noises after the race - "two-tenths away from the Hondas". The same advantage as having a seamless shift gearbox? 

COTA was a Honda track - this year.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Comparison..

Me too snivelling nev7..

Stoner spent a 2006 debut season crashing his brains out while the other "Satty" RCV riders were winning races..and asking him for set-up advice would have been the kiss of death for sure.

The Carbon Fibre Ducati the Australian begged for got skipped as soon as he was shown the door, and he stubbornly chose to keep the old RCV last year, got reugularly beat by serial loser Pedrosa as a result and hobbled away from the paddock, everyone cheering, because he couldn't tame the best bike on the grid or beat his team mate either.

Mind you..he did the sensible thing. Can you imagine him being as gracious as Dani in defeat against the force of nature that is Marquez?

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

What I'm suggesting CHR

is there's fack all different in the performance of the two benchmark Japanese machines. Although it strikes me that the M1 is the easier of the two to ride to its full potential. The variables of rider ability remain greater than that of the hardware they use.

And just how many of these COTA corners involved banked over gear changes upsetting the balance of the sublime M1? If the Yamaha riders reckon they have acceleration issues, maybe they need to use more of the throttle, because not one of those machines out there is putting anywhere near all those 250 ponies to the ground at first touch. Lorenzo nailed it really - correct gearing is the key.

It makes your wonder what the world nr.6 did in his five days of circulating the place.

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