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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati ‘lab’ bike gets lukewarm reception from Dovizioso and Hayden

Andrea Dovizioso and Nicky Hayden tested Ducati’s ‘lab’ bike in Jerez yesterday (Monday) and both reported only minimal gains over the factory Desmosedici GP13 they are currently racing in MotoGP. The development machine features a revised aluminium chassis and has been ridden extensively by Michele Pirro in private testing. And the Italian raced the experimental bike to a respectable 11th place as...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Whoopee..SSTK.

Ducati run 1200cc vs 1000. They ran 1000 when everyone ran 750..and you whine about air restrictors? Let them all run 1200's then.

I doubt any of the current riders will get anywhere near as competitive as washed up ol Val was last year..and he made your Honda riders look silly on a slower bike just last month?

The delusion runs deeper than I thought. Talking about PP in the present won't bring him back. They're far better off without his bottom lip & bruised ego cluttering up the place anyway. 

Nah..sorry..they're history as a force in top level bike racing. Nobody to blame but themselves.

 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ho, ho, ho Wosi

Another mathematical subject you score a big FAIL on. Twins have only a 20% capacity advantage now, as opposed to the 33% capacity and 15% weight advantage over the fours in Foggy's day. No wonder he won so often.

Do you understand the reasons behind such capacity advanatage. Piston speed, rpm, burn efficiencies? I'm disappointed to read such slander from a clanky old CX twin runner like you. WSBK would be a much poorer series without Ducati twins and the Aprilia RSV's.

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rocketri17

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rocketri17 says:

History eh Wosi?

'Nah..sorry..they're history as a force in top level bike racing. Nobody to blame but themselves.' The immortal wise words of Wosi. Sure Ducati are a small enterprise compared to the Hondas and Yamahas of this world, and they are currently struggling with their racing (no doubt!). But to stay they are 'history' as a force in top level racing is premature, no doubt there either, struggling yes, but history -not (yet!?) I guess time will tell.

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rocketri17

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rocketri17 says:

oh, and Nostro

For change -well said in your post immediately below

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

You appear to be shooting your own argument down in flames?

Ducati have ALWAYS had a capacity advantage because they can't compete on a level playing field.

An engine is a pump. A bigger pump will shift more fuel. They don't HAVE to run a twin with heavier pistons and longer throw cranks.

When Honda got pissed with them cheating and built a twin, they got their arses kicked.

Without rules to suit them, in both GP with tyres and WSB with capacity..they struggle.

Style over substance as Noddy says. Hardly surprising they appeal to silly old softees like your good self?

If they want to run unrestricted intakes and 1200..fine, just let everyone else do the same. What's your problem with that idea then Big Brain?

Old wosi loves a twin, fkin brilliant for the road, but get's a bit peeved at some of these higher than mighty Ducatisti who reckon shit ain't fair because their beloved marque can't compete on the race track.

Well make a bloody bike that can then and STFU about blinkered brand identity being so essential. It's nobodies problem but their own.

They were as happy as a pig in shit when WSB resembled a Ducati Cup.

I agree with you about Foggy..didn't do as well on the V4 Honda did he?

Saying this..he did race the roads and had pretty large bollocks. You checked yours lately, ya mincer?

Hahaha..

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Oh dear Wosi

Spouting off again without having a clue what you're on about. Time to go and read a rule book me thinks. The four cylinder machines have no air intake restrictors.

If the Panigale's continue to perform as poorly as they have to date the FIM will slowly (only reviewed after three events against performance averages of the best twins and the best fours) allow them the decrease the diameter of the restriction in 2mm increments, and let the damn things breath - eventually.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Oh dear Wosi

A pump it isn't  -  it works on a vacuum basis  -  it sucks like you

Now, a little earlier you made another gaff by claiming the Ducati is barely any faster than a CRT.

On what basis? Because a CRT finished in front of it? Nothing to do with the CRT rider extracting the absolute maximum from his machine which is more than the Ducati riders are?

By your logic, the Tech3 Yam is no faster than a CRT based upon results achieved by Smith  -  except a certain Mr Crutchlow disproves that theory.

Just as there is a 1 second difference between the two Tech3 riders, there could just as easily be a rider out there who on a Daucati, could put a gap between himself and the current line-up.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

You really haven't got a clue, have you?

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Evidently

Neither have you, from your reply

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