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Mike12421

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Mike12421 says:

Brightest lights

Hi everyone, 


I've been looking around for the best way to replace the two bulbs on my 2008 Triumph Speed Triple 1050. I want to keep the original housing as I think it looks better than the new "bug eyed" design. I just want the brightest possible light, ideal for night time riding. 

Does anyone have any suggestions at all? 

Thanks. 

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eatcs01

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eatcs01 says:

bright bulbs

Stick some 100w80w bulbs in.

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

or

if you want to stay road legal then philip's xtreme power bulbs are what you are looking for.

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bbstrikesagain

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An E mark

means no doubt about the legality.  So called +50, +80 etc just run hotter and output a slightly more focussed hot spot from a smaller burner (coil) running in higher gas pressure.  Max benefit is about 15% in total output, but it looks a bit more.


My favourite legal bulb is Philips VisionPlus, a quality "plus 50" design.  Hotter E marked bulbs have more light but also a MUCH shorter life expectancy, some will need changing as often as a rear tyre!  Cobalt II get good reports on AutoExpress bulb tests and are cheap, but they waste some lumens in their blue coating and I don't think the quality is as consistent. 

Away from E marking you can get 80/100 as eatscs says, which is a lot more lumens, and a normal life expectancy.  However, it increases power in the wiring loom and connectors by more than 2.5x (P=I².R), which could cause trouble on some bikes.  It also may be illegal in a good few EU countries, perhaps even here?

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Mike12421

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Mike12421 says:

Thanks

Thanks for everyone's thoughts. From your suggestions I think I'll go with these;


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00440CWCG

Are these the right ones? 

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bbstrikesagain

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I thought

the bike had H4, not H7 - check them first..


X-treme ("+100") are probably going to last about 150 hours, but give a great light, so if it's long enough, go for it.

VisionPlus ("+50") give about half as much extra shine but last three times as long and usually cost less.

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eatcs01

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eatcs01 says:

100w80w

100w 80w bulbs are illegal in the UK*. You can only run 55w on dipped beam.

Those supposedly brighter bulbs are no better than standard IMO.

*So are small plates, loud cans and speeding :biggrin:

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

Ive

Used the Philips +100% ones on all my bikes and I've never had one go pop. Current one has been in around 2 years riding every day. 

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bbstrikesagain

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Do you

timeshare between a load of bikes, ride only a few minutes a day, or what?


Actually, a lot of bikes use thin (aka hopelessly inadequate) wiring to headlight bulbs, so some may be running at less than the nominal voltage.
The bulbs are rated at 12.8V.  A battery on charge is around 14V, but some voltage is inevitably lost in the thin wiring.

A little less volts means a lot less lumens and a whole lot more lifetime, so maybe drops in the wiring explain your long lifetimes?

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eatcs01

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eatcs01 says:

Brighter lights

Why not put an HID kit in?

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bbstrikesagain

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HID

is kinder to the loom, more eye-catching too.  Not sure why I haven't got around to it.  I think what's stopping me is that I do ride in the countryside at night, not sure I want a main beam that either comes on really slow (HID), or looks like a candle alongside the always on HID dipped beam.


Big gains, like 2-3x more real lumens for about 70% of the power, but some issues about beam focus and especially tricky if the H4 was using both filaments...

Of course there are dual beam projectors - one capsule and a moving reflector/shutter - I saw a project where someone grafted one into a spare gixxer thou headlight, but that was some project...

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