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Matthew Birt  says:

When Spencer met Marquez

For 31 long years, American legend Freddie Spencer held the distinction of being the youngest rider in history ever to win in the MotoGP class.That was until the mercurial Marc Marquez arrived in MotoGP in 2013 and broke Spencer’s record with a historic win in the inaugural Circuit of the Americas clash in Texas back in April.Spencer, who was 20...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Talking of nostalgia Jamie

Here's a manky bit of yellow belly button lint in the form of a Trumpie Triple.

Best, worst, average. It's all contextual within the company they keep. The world nr.6 is well...performing as a world nr.6. Average. Or as a factory rider - poorly. Wosi'd be tearing him to shreds if he was any other rider on a factory machine of the calibre of the M1.

I do kind of admire the way MM says he would definitely highslide a five hundred. So matter of fact. No fear at all. Wouldn't it be nice if the factories rolled their two stroke museum pieces out for the boys to have a play on end of season.

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winger

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winger says:

I just hope Marquez does a better job of hanging onto his money because poor old Freddie hasn't got a pot to piss in.

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weskit

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weskit says:

rider aids reduce crashes

but they don't make you faster. The key to going fast on a modern motogp is precision and the fastest riders nowadays are incredibly precise. As Kenny Snr said after he got off Lorenzo's M1 in my day, you could go into the corner a little fast and you'd push the front, or the back would come around, but on that thing, you just go BOOM!


Flair and intuition doesn't count for anything unless you have the control to back it up, otherwise it's just showboating for the crowd in the absence of opposition. 

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Who says it reduces crashes? where's the hard evidence weskit?

It's just another popular misconception trotted out by the factories - and latched onto by numpties - in the name of justifying spending on electronics.

BSB have ditched rider aids and the crashes have gone down..pilots respect the throttle and don't just whack the fucker open come rain or shine putting 100% faith in the computer.

It teaches them how to ride a bike properly..

The majority of spills are front end anyway..so why don't they use ABS?

Crashing is part of racing and learning the limit..if you don't like it, do something else.

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

wosi...

I agree with much of what you say there...


"The majority of spills are front end anyway..so why don't they use ABS?"

They're not the ones that used to cause the majority of bad injuries though... highsides did & they've been reduced dramatically.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Cheers

Hedgey..

..and I agree with much of what you say about Rossi needing to qualify better, just don't tell anyone.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

PS..What's with the trendy shaded comments?

 

 

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Bootlegger

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Bootlegger says:

Spa vs COTA

The huge advancement re  500 vs 4stroke has accelerated in terms of rider safety and its showed off handsomely. The tracks with their well considered safety features and rider protection are a far cry from way back then which makes  'balls' current or yesteryear a moot point.  What would you rather have? The old Nurburgring at 240 + on a 350 stroker  back then or a current Mugello at 340+ on a 1000 banger?

Heads you win,tails you lose. Electronics has naught to do with saving disaster,on any Sunday. 

Modern circuit layouts and modern safety kit have much to do with averting casualty. Props to the blokes behind the scenes at the GP safety commision.

One thing for sure. Two titles in the same year,intermediate and senior by one rider is not going to happen again anytime soon,if ever.

Hell,Marc might like to spread his new found influence around the HRC walls a little. How embarrasing HRC are right now in Moto3?  Very!

 

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CBR11X

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CBR11X says:

Different Strokes

It's impossible to judge the two eras in a head-to-head comparison. The bikes back then had less power, but it came on with a bang, the tyres they had offered less grip, and their suspension packages can't compare to their modern counterparts. Yes Moto2 bikes have eclipsed some of the old two-stroke lap times, but is anyone seriously suggesting that a Moto2 is as difficult to ride as a 2 stroke 500? It's also unfair to compare a 500cc 2 stroke bike to a 1000cc 4 stroke bike. Just because they average out with twice as many power strokes, does not mean they are equivalent. Now if you compared a MotoGP bike to a 1000cc 2 stroke, that would be something else altogether. I'd like to see that.

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Wosi...

"PS..What's with the trendy shaded comments?"


Google Chrome glitch... it's a work thing.

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weskit

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weskit says:

the only repetitive numpties around here

are the ones endlessly parroting their yellow idol's excuses for being trounced. "Ees no fair. Ees the breedgestones. Ees the traction control. They ees all pussees." It's been an entertaining few years.

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