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Yamaha's new MT-09 850cc triple - love it or hate it?

Yamaha's new long-promised triple 850cc machine has finally broken cover, and its looks are sure to be as controversial as its powerplant. What's your take on it? Already pre-ordered one or do you detest it?  

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snev

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snev says:

Shiva......

So..... Yamaha sell 7000000 (Seven Million) Bikes and BMW sell 106000 (one hundred and six thousand) bikes....! How do you come to your Headline........"It's sad to see Japan fall so quickly". Do you have the sales figures for Honda,Suzuki and Kawasaki? As for the Bike....I neither Love it or Hate it...reckon I'll reserve Judgement until I see it in the flesh.

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Most of those sales are chicken chasers though

And their bigger bikes are (mostly) just playing around within already established boundaries and categories. It's like they're saying "Eh, that'll do," and settling down to run out the clock on the internal combustion engine.

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exceledsteve

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exceledsteve says:

Want to

love it but it doesn't deserve such strong affection... Doesn't deserve to be hated either. And therein lies its problem. It's just another bike in the newly(ish) emerging upper middle class. It has some good bits.. Triple engine with nice power.. Probably, some nice detail touches, attractive price, and it has some bad bits.. Tiny tank, tiny back end for tiny pillions/loads and hum drum styling only on a par with rivals. Yamaha used to be an innovative producer of bikes but they've missed a trick with what should be a very important model for them in today's biking environment. I've been waiting for a long time for a modern, more practical FZX or Updated TDM. I'll have to keep waiting by the looks of it.

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flydnb

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flydnb says:

love it

I like the styling and the spec, I bet the engine is a peach and I will buy one for sure, it has nice light weight and good seating position and the right amount of power, I cant wait.

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snev

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snev says:

"their bigger bikes...

are (mostly) playing around within already established boundaries and categories"......Hmmm, reckon the Japanese have created most of the Boundaries and categories for the past 50 years including the "chicken Chasers" that we all learnt to ride on.

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SHIVA_

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SHIVA_ says:

Snev

Hi, I should have explained further.  Here it is.

Honda motorcycles is the biggest daddy of them all with about 15 million units sold worldwide.  Yamaha is at around 7 mil worldwide.  But almost all of these bikes are cheap, small cc bikes (scoots and mopeds) sold in Southeast Asia.  We are talking bottom feeders. 

Their high style, large cc models don't sell in massive quantities.  For example Honda in the US could potentially sell about 150,000 units.  That's all.  I haven't seen their latest numbers for the US, so it's a guesstimate. 

So, numbers don't mean quality.  McDonalds sells a lot of burgers too, doesn't mean sh*t.  In many cases volume is not an indicative of quality or specialty.   It's often means, cheap and low end. 

 

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Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

@ SHIVA

Sales of motorcycles in the US indicate little except that it is a screwy market - after all, the heavyweight motorcycle market is dominated by a brand that sells on the basis of having a cult following and/or reinforcing a false self-image, and not on technology, value, performance, reliability, etc.  But at least Honda is finally marketing newly introduced models to potential new motorcycle riders, rather than fighting for sales among the rapidly aging biker (US meaning) crowd.

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HIVIS

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HIVIS says:

What's new?

There is very little new here.Where's the inovation? Now if the engine was a narrow angle V3 along the lines of half a VW VR6 engine, the narrow angle V config allowing the cylinders to be packaged closer together making a lighter narrower engine then I would be very impressed. 

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snev

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snev says:

Shiva

McDonalds, have 34000 restaurants in 119 countries they sell to 68000000 customers each day and employ 1700000 people.... yep...... "doesn't mean shit"..................

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domster

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domster says:

Snev

Always suspected your 'tastes' would include Mcdonalds munching!

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