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Sep 12

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MachoGrande says:

Part 36 offer without liability

I was in an accident last year which has been steadily heading towards court. I got knocked off my bike by a guy coming out of a junction, turning right in to traffic and knocking in to me while I filtered past a slow moving bus. It was a big lane and I wasn't over the line or in front of the bus when I got hit. The bus driver has acted as a witness for me stating that the driver pulled out in to traffic without looking and without any indication from the bus that he was safe to do so. I was filtering at about 10mph which is confirmed by the bus driver. The car driver also admitted not being able to see past the bus at the scene which was backed by my witness but he is obviously contesting liability.

Over the last 14 months the car driver has changed offers of liability from 80/20 in his favour to 50/50 and now to this part 36 offer. I thought I had a pretty solid case and was ready to take it all the way to court when this latest offer came. The car driver has offered to settle all my costs in 'full and final settlement' without admitting liability via a part 36 offer. This initially sounded like full admission of guilt but the more I read about this the less sure I am. My solicitor is advising me to accept and warned of SEVERE financial implications if I decline.

The solicitor currently fighting for me is only representing my personal injury and costs associated to the accident. My insurance company are sitting on the sideline waiting on the outcome verdict to decide where the fault lies and decide who pays for the vehicle damage. It's therefore really important to me that this guy is found to be at fault.

Before the accident my insurance fully comp was £400, now the best quotes fully comp are over £2000 due to a fault accident UNLESS this guy admits FULL liability. If I accept any liability my underwriters are pulling my NCB. I have told my solicitor that I would be willing to wave all the other costs attached to my case as long he admitted full liability and I have also suggested arbitration. None of this has been taken up. My solicitor says that even with a four leaf clover stitched to my rabbit foot that in court the judge will likely default to legal precedent or case law and the best I would get would be 90/10 liability in my favour. This would be worse if he hasn't had his frosties or is an avid anti biker.

If I lose this case I can't afford to insure my bike fully comp. The settlement monies won at court will pay towards the first year of insurance but the next three years will be expensive while I build up no claims again. I really don't know if I should accept this or go to court and seek 100% victory. Where do I stand with my bike insurance if I accept this offer? This offer makes no mention of how much liability I am accepting with the offer. I will be speaking to my solicitors again but I'm really interested in a second opinion. Any help or comments very welcome!!

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Apr 06

Posts: 367

ACIC says:

accident claim

can you attach the letter so i can read it?
Regards, Andrew Campbell, Bikelawyer Motorcycle Accident Solicitors
MCN Legal Expert

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Feb 09

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philehidiot says:


is why I hate insurance companies. I'm fighting someone who walked out in front of me without looking and just because of the accusation I automatically have a fault accident on my records - it'll stay that way until it's resolved and just like you, my insurance quotes have gone up massively as I've lost my no claims bonus. I'll only get it back if the blind, stupid bitch backs down. Over a year on and still she insists I should be psychic and know she's going to do something utterly stupid without looking.

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Jul 10

Posts: 68

brmoore says:


Filtering is legal, it's their duty to check its clear even if the bus was stopping or turning, they shouldn't have pulled out until they can see down the road, you've won this one just as long as you can stick it out.

(Andrew above couldn't help me apparently...yet I'm busy winning, he likes the sound of your claim though as it's an easy win.)

If you have an questions I'll give free advice based on my own experience, I've been hit by cars, buses, all sorts, hazards of riding all year, people don't even see me in a car, which I've bought just to have transport since my insurers suck, anyway:


I have taken part 36 offer before, I'd be a little hesitant with no blame mentioned, why are they offering to pay for you if you're at fault? Ignore your insurance company about financial implications if you don't accept, you're non fault tell them to piss off untill blame is established, if you have legal cover go for court, see what the other side suddenly do when faced with court, I've seen a case same situation as yours won 100% for the biker.


To be honest I don't even know why you've allowed it to go 14months, just opt for court now, my longest ever claim was 6months, my current one is at 3months and already im trying to go to court...why should my life be put on hold, if they got anything on me let's see it in court, because I know they aint got shit...

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