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Matthew Birt  says:

Aspar contemplating Yamaha engine deal for 2014

Aprilia’s MotoGP effort could be dealt a major blow with its most high profile and successful squad contemplating ditching its ART machine for 2014. The Spanish-based Aspar squad, which has dominated the CRT category with Aleix Espargaro and Randy de Puniet, confirmed in Barcelona last weekend that it is locked in talks with Yamaha about a YZR-M1 motor lease deal next...

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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Surely

this has to be the way forward. I think the Yamaha engine in a Suter frame will be awesome, or even the Kalex frame. This imo could be the best thing thats happened in Moto gp for a while.

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IcantRIDEaBIKE

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Funny

The customer Yammy engines will be the same spec as Cal Crutchlows. NOT Lorenzo's or Rossi's. How queer! some people would have you believe Cals Bike is running a factory engine! Thats clearly Bollocks! Kudos to Cal

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

The M1 engine with a full tank of juice

will be an interesting proposition.

Swings and round abouts though. Will a bespoke chassis manufacturer be able to harness double the HP of a Moto2 machine using the M1 lease engine?

HRC will roll out a pretty decent sounding proddie racer, albeit one only designed to use 21 litres. Valve springs or pneumatic? How many HP down on the prototypes? Will it be possible to take the tank out to 24 litres running MM control electronics and run it a little richer and harder?

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moto4

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moto4 says:

Certainly...

... from what we know so far (which is precious little), it seems likely the Yamaha in a independent frame would seem the most likely of the non factory/satellite machines to be able to compete. Honda will ensure (or has) that the production RCV cannot out perform it's own satellite bikes, like for like but only if Yamaha can be held to their lease engines being on a par with Tech3- not just compared to the current engine but to the Tech3 at the time of lease. I'd still rather see purchased MotoGP for all teams rather than leased.

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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Lets not forget

Suter has made chassis's for the factory Ducatis already so the prospect of them doing well with a leased engine is reasonably high. Also the Tech 3 bike has a different gearbox to the factory Yamahas and thats about it I think.

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WillRTW

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WillRTW says:

FTR

would be my choice, they already have got a good degree of experience in MotoGP now. FTR, a very smooth Yamaha engine with 24 litres of juice to go in it... plus Scott Redding in the seat with Colin Edwards on the bike next door to help develop it :)

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bluehaze60

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bluehaze60 says:

They'd be stupid not to talk to yamaha about an engine deal

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

smith

needs to be on this and redding on his m1,cal on rossi's m1, pol to wait till he has done anything,then let the young guns have a crack a the ducati camp and return casey as the guru!!

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WillRTW

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WillRTW says:

Smith

It's too early to call judgement on him.... personally I think he's found a little more pace of late. Also, check out what the very capable Danny Kent is doing on the Tech3 lash up this year... makes Bradley's pace last year look damned impressive.

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jamieg999

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jamieg999 says:

It's not all that

The Yamaha engine deal is €800,000 odd for 3 engines and 2 rebuilds, so technically 5, and the services of a factory engine man. With the chassis you're looking at a similar price to the Honda, the trade off seems to be a more factory spec motor (Yamaha) and potential chassis freedom against a complete bike that has (so far) had more development. Neither option will be capable of beating a full fat prototype in a straight fight, so, what's the point? Especially when you factor in the R&D that will need to be done, in many ways this is all just adding more cost to racing.

It's possible that independents could make the ultimate kit prototype but it won't be cheap or a quick success, so what's the point?

More bikes on the grid is a good thing but a customer Honda (if anyone buys one) that sits just in front of the CRTs and cobbled together Yamaha powered racing development hacks aren't what's needed.

Hopefully by the time the 2015 season starts there will be some sort of stable formula in place for MotoGP because what's happening now all looks a bit wishy washy.

 

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