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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

Pirelli in F1

Anyone see this race? 4 blowouts, 5 overall failures and a few drivers coming in to change tyres early due to delamination. Some teams found cuts in the tyres when they replaced during normal pit stops. Three of the blowouts happened during the first 8 laps and then teams told their drivers to back off and avoid the curbs... total farce.


Never been a problem before at Silverstone so really Pirelli have a lot of explaining to do. Tyres should be fit for purpose and this is really bad marketing for them, never mind anything else.

Some F1 races of late have been ruined by tyre management being the prime focus but going from that to serious safety issues is just a stop too far. The tyres take a pounding at Silverstone with 4.5g lateral loading on the cars on a normal lap but safety critical parts should have margins for safety at least 1.5x the design loading. Tyres are, in my opinion, safety critical and it shows that Pirelli are capable of making some very bad design decisions and releasing a tyre for use without adequate testing. If they're willing to do that in a high profile situation like F1, can we trust them to make proper design and testing decisions for the consumer, where the real profit lies? F1 is a marketing game for them so they should be willing to lose money to make things perfect here to convince people their road tyres are the best.

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shuggie1

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shuggie1 says:

Most exciting race in ages

Shoud have these random self destruct tyres in every race.


Agree bit of an own goal from Pirelli, if they can't make these top end tyres well, what hope for the ones us plebs buy. Bridgestone, Michelin etc must be pi55ing themselves laughing

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cheekymonkey

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cheekymonkey says:

Just

watched it. reat drive by Lewis and Mark W.

Tyres? I`m not into F1 much but can they (Pirrelli) get all the testing they need? Isn`t this a result of limited testing available?
Only race distance tests by top drivers will test the tyre properly.
 

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kcmc

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kcmc says:

Found out why

the tyres weren't up to spec :lol:

 

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He Who Dares Rodney He Who Dares  :lol:

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CB13

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CB13 says:

Perhaps they were made in...

China like a lot of their bike tyres:shock: 

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geoffart

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geoffart says:

track

... and they checked the track for any items that may have caused this to happenk? 

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geoffart

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geoffart says:

track

... and they checked the track for any items that may have caused this to happenk? 

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cheekymonkey

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cheekymonkey says:

Nothing

wrong with the track. 

I`ve just checked, and they are not allowed to test!!
Merecedes and Pireilli just been reprimanded for "illegal" testing. Crazy.
They`re gonna relax the rules to allow some testing this week. 

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stevebaldy

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stevebaldy says:

looks like

Charlie Whitting very nearly red flagged the race.  Is it really just bad tyres though?.....if an increase of 2psi can make things safer, then surely the kerbs must have some causal effect, ( the inside of 'that' particular kerb did have quite a pronounced edge and the low pressures and lateral loads at F1 speeds must put enormous strain on the tyres )  and as all the teams say, Silverstone is unique in its charachterisics.  In any case, Pirelli DID try to introduce a new compound, but most of the teams vetoed it.  They are stuffed either way, a terrible PR fiasco for them, and not all of their doing.

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cheekymonkey

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cheekymonkey says:

Yeh but

Derek Warwick says the kerbs have been there since 2009.

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stevebaldy

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stevebaldy says:

Pirelli fight back....

use the tyres as per manufacturers instructions!!




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