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Matthew Birt  says:

Honda unlikely to sell all production machines for 2014

Honda has admitted as many of two of its new production RC213V racers could go unsold for the 2014 MotoGP world championship.The Japanese factory had made available five production versions of its factory RC213V prototypes at a cost of between £800,000 and £1m for next season but presently only one order has been placed by Fausto Gresini’s Italian-based squad.That bike...

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ColonelClaw

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ColonelClaw says:

There's no 'i' in team

In these austere times, I will do my bit and take one of the spare bikes off Honda's hands for 5 grand.

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thestig08

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thestig08 says:

ever heard the phrase

priced themselves out of the market?.Look at wsbk aand the size of the motogp grids ,give the people what they want or soon people will get fed up of how things are, riders just not getting machinery because of cost and politics,Heads from arses time ,anything is only worth what people can afford to or will pay ,so the true value of a racing motorcycle is not the thick end of a million quid is it ?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Sub-contract labour..

As a free spirit, creating money and work for others out of thin air..running the show and being a master of one's own destiny..is this Honda tie-in going to satisfy the entrepreneurial team owner?

You buy the bike - which to be fair is a shit-pile better than Yamaha's lease proposal - and know it's gonna come with ground rules and top-ups, that once you commit there's no controlling.

Why buy into Honda's effort to rule the world?

Better off doing your own thing without having to play their game..shaping your own shit.

I hope HRC and Yamaha fall flat on their faces with this 'Non MSMA' smokescreen bullshit.

Fuck the pecking order and pre-conditions.

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

limit

there should be a limit from each manufacturer and honda have kinda twisted the rules again in their own favour imo,you dont see yamaha or ducati going down this road,but its down to money,which i believe honda are not at a loss of and just want to rule moto 2 and moto gp. shame but thats life.

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moto4

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moto4 says:

worst.

Apart from the increases in price since first announced- I read it would be £1.5million (also read £1.2million) plus £500k for year2 updates, the worst part of this third tier of factory control is that it is giving, potentially, the same 2/3 factories control right down the grid. This is borne out by Yamahas alleged dealing with Bradly Smith being offered to Forward or other lease teams. LCR also conmplained that finding the budget was hard enough nut then having to agree a (second) rider with Honda would be a further issue. The real problems comes if only 1 or 2 teams bother but then they seem to be the non msma package- the following year everyone will feel they have to have one. Better surely to continue to develop their own and owned machines.

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winger

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winger says:

Dorna are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't,the point of CRT was to force the factories to supply more bikes now they are their being occused of taking over jeeze!!!

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

Shame on you HRC they maybe the biggest manufacturer in motorcycling but on the racing they make themselves look like a joke by bending the rules every time.

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Why waste your own and sponsors dollars on a production based engine in a series run by an incompetent idiot who changes the rules faster than his rent boys? Spend the money on the production racer, learn from it and live in hope that in the next 5 years someone gets serious about cost limitation and earning your place with your performances. Thinking the rest are gonna catch up with the performance of the RCV's and M1's is pure fantasy.

The Aprilia is impressive yes but bugger me, it doesn't belong in the current series format and blaming Honda for that and any other woes for which you see fit, is just more misdirected pro-Flo hatred.

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ACEEDSTORM

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ACEEDSTORM says:

So much for making racing more affordable,but then again as this is the pinnacle of motorcycle sport was it ever meant to be?I still think Dorna are angling to have the whole grid on CRT bikes & reduce WSB to glorified proddy bikes.

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1986vfr750

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1986vfr750 says:

Why cant they stop this foolishness of running these awesome machines on fumes? Hopefully after seeing how well these "lesser spec factory" bikes run on 24 litres, they will go back to that for all. Then suzuki, kawasaki, and maybe a few others will jump on board. It appears very difficult to make a 250hp machine go 75-80km on a measly 20 litres. And IMO 4litres of fuel doesnt seem like much of a cost saving, or all that bad for the environment either. Especially compared to millions(billions?) spent on electronic development. That is the expensive part and why no one wants to play moto gp anymore.

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