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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati keen to see Nicky Hayden in WSB

Ducati doesn’t want to cut axed MotoGP rider Nicky Hayden completely off its payroll in 2014 and will try and tempt the American to ride a Panigale in World Superbikes. The 2006 world champion has not had his factory MotoGP contract renewed for a sixth season, but there is still serious interest in his services with a range of WSB and...

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Join the fun Saturn...

 ..I'd be happy to accept that sentiment, and in fact have in the past alluded to that point of view. The problem comes my friend, as you well know, when the truth is distorted due to an un-biased opinion of someone ( in this case Casey Stoner ) and statement's are made in the guise of the truth.

Wosi's a dab hand at this kind of thing, and every now and again deserves a slap. That's all..   

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Well there's me looking like a pleb then...

 ..I of course meant 'biased', as opposed to 'un-biased' ( cough, splutter etc! )

 

 

Shit, and I was doing so well!.. 

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Rainman

Keep strummin' those chords my man.   I have a vintage Hofner  Verithin ( just for old times sakes). 1964!

By the way you can put me forward for the job with 'Cirque du Soleil'.

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

We should start a band..

...do you happen to have a drug dependency we could focus on? ( and I'm not talking about the painkillers for your bad back! ) - remember image is everything..

 

I'm personally into snorting Viagra eight balls at the moment....the only problem being, is it gives me a stiff neck! 

 

The Hofner's cool Saturn, but the Tele's where it's at...

 

 

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Sorry Rainman

I'm clean - apart from the Viagra I wasn't riding it much tho' so I sold it last year.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Ta for the sort of link CHR..

..I'll buy the Mag tomoz.

So Briggs says there's now't wrong wi' frame or engine?

What?..as individual pieces or when thrown together as a motorcycle?

Silly me..and silly Dovi, Hayden, Rossi & Melandri too. 

Those bastards at Bridgestone must be to blame, oh..and the sugar daddies in the board room ignoring the engineers on the ground and a certain rider who..

 ".. got a lot of things we asked for, unfortunately 8 months too late.."

Stoner was there for 4 years, so despite having to wait for what he wanted, it was mainly delivered..whether it was Del Torchio knocking something up in the autoclave with his suit on after meetings, or not.

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

I think Rossi and Burgess

are guilty of nothing except hubris in terms of their assessment of the task that faced them at Ducati, and underestimating what Stoner did on the thing Saturn.

The bike was undevelopable, into a Yamaha or Honda clone anyway, and I suspect much of the problem, with the handling anyway, always came down to the actual configuration/dimensions of the engine and the power delivery characteristics rather than the chassis in any case, agreeing with Wosi rather than Alex Briggs. Changing to a conventional chassis, and there is no reason Suter should not be able to produce one which behaves similarly to those Honda and Yamaha have if not necessarily one quite as good, does not seem to have altered the handling characteristics of the bike much at all. Tyre problems also seem to be an issue though, since Dovi has had good one-lap pace on occasion which he hasn't been able to sustain, and this has been an issue for Hayden during his entire tenure.

Wosi asks why they didn't go back to the carbon fibre chassis (not that they should if they want a more conventional bike, or that Stoner was responsible for it in the first place), but there does not ever seem to have been any suggestion that they should go back to the trellis frame either. 

Ducati bailed on Stoner, not the reverse, btw Wosi.

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Not wanting to cast aspersions on dear old Wosi...

 ..as I hold him in high esteem - I enjoy his acerbic wit and his unrelenting loyalty and if I ever met the fella, I'd happily buy him a shandy... But fuck me Doo, are you really suggesting an MCN forum stalwart has more of a clue to what's required to fix the Desmo, than a veteran of the MotoGP paddock and someone who has been directly involved in the project??

 

Hahahahahahahaha...

 

If you're suggesting Wosi knows more than Briggs ( hahahahaha ), then I'm sorry mate, your forum credibility has taken a devastating nosedive!..

 

Sweet mother of God, get with the program...

 

 

 

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

No CHR

Just an opinion I had prior to my participation in this forum.

I haven't read what Briggs says (the link was insufficiently specific) but if there is "not too much wrong with the bike" why are Dovi and Nicky not more competitive, and more particularly why wasn't Valentino before them?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

..and why

..would Briggs say there is nothing wrong with the bike and it's competitive as it stands, when clearly it isn't?

Surely this risks making Rossi look a lemon, undermining his efforts back at Yamaha to prove it wasn't him but the bike?

It's a load of bollocks..CHR is tripping.

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