SACHS 800 (2000 - 2004) Review

At a glance

Owners' reliability rating: 4.5 out of 5 (4.5/5)
Annual servicing cost: £150
Power: 57 bhp
Seat height: Low (30.3 in / 770 mm)
Weight: Medium (461 lbs / 209 kg)

Overall rating

Next up: Ride & brakes
3 out of 5 (3/5)

The Sachs boasts gorgeous design with excellent build quality and ought to be better than it is. It seems a bit busy, trying to be part roadster, part sportsbike, part cruiser and the result is a slightly disappointing, split-personality that doesn’t really deliver on any level. You can have fun and it’ll make you smile… But it’s unlikely to ever have you screaming into your crash helmet for more.

 

Ride quality & brakes

Next up: Engine
3 out of 5 (3/5)

The handling’s pretty good, with wide bars, and it’s easy to tip in to corners. Push it harder and you’ll soon feel it’s weight, however. The brakes are fantastic and have loads of feel and the gearbox is good. It’s vibey through the bars and pegs at higher speeds whilst the suspension’s good, rather than great.

Engine

Next up: Reliability
4 out of 5 (4/5)

The V-twin engine’s a Suzuki number (it’s used to power their VL800 Intruder) and it’s very much a cruiser job which doesn’t sit entirely well in the Roadster’s chassis. It has plenty of torque, as you’d expect, low down and in the midrange, but still not quite enough power to match the bike’s flingable leanings.

 

Reliability & build quality

Next up: Value
4 out of 5 (4/5)

The Roadster’s built to a high standard but those gold-coloured USD forks do look slightly out of place. The engine’s a tough one, even if it doesn’t suit the bike terribly well, so reliability shouldn’t be a problem. Sachs’ bikes are hand built so precision and care in their construction is paramount. Good.

Value vs rivals

Next up: Equipment
2 out of 5 (2/5)

Hmm… Not that great. It’s funky and different but has a bit of an identity crisis. A roadster that wants to scratch but is held back by an engine which is tuned for cruising: somehow it doesn’t all add up. Either buy a cheaper (and far superior) Suzuki SV650 if you want to throw something around or opt for a dedicated cruiser instead. Find a Sachs Roadster for sale.

Equipment

4 out of 5 (4/5)

The big, wide seat houses rider and pillion comfortably and there’s a grabrail at the back. The mirrors work well, as does the headlight. It’s naked as standard but a small screen is a popular modification. The wire-spoked wheels, chrome-housed clocks and shaft drive add appeal.

Specs

Engine size 805cc
Engine type 8v V-twin, 5 gears
Frame type Steel spine
Fuel capacity 17 litres
Seat height 770mm
Bike weight 209kg
Front suspension None
Rear suspension Preload
Front brake Twin 320mm discs
Rear brake Drum
Front tyre size 120/70 x 17
Rear tyre size 160/60 x 17

Mpg, costs & insurance

Average fuel consumption 40 mpg
Annual road tax £117
Annual service cost £150
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Insurance group 10 of 17
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Warranty term Two year unlimited mileage

Top speed & performance

Max power 57 bhp
Max torque 52 ft-lb
Top speed 110 mph
1/4 mile acceleration 14.2 secs
Tank range 150 miles

Model history & versions

Model history

2000: Model launched.
2004: Model discontinued.

 

Other versions

Roadster 650: Also launched in 2000, this is a 50bhp, single cylinder four stroke, weighing in at a much-sprightlier 164kg.


 

Owners' reviews for the SACHS 800 (2000 - 2004)

8 owners have reviewed their SACHS 800 (2000 - 2004) and rated it in a number of areas. Read what they have to say and what they like and dislike about the bike below.

Review your SACHS 800 (2000 - 2004)

Summary of owners' reviews

Overall rating: 4.1 out of 5 (4.1/5)
Ride quality & brakes: 4.1 out of 5 (4.1/5)
Engine: 4.4 out of 5 (4.4/5)
Reliability & build quality: 4.5 out of 5 (4.5/5)
Value vs rivals: 4.5 out of 5 (4.5/5)
Equipment: 3.5 out of 5 (3.5/5)
Annual servicing cost: £150
4 out of 5 Classy and reliable weekend machine
12 December 2023 by Dalila

Version: dalila.minis@hotmail.com

Year: 2002

Annual servicing cost: £150

Quite a rare bike: First impression is a long reach to wide bars, low seat and high footpegs, but you get used to it. Front and rear shocks are a bit soft from standard. Gorgeous lines in the design and wire spoke wheels are classy as heck. Loads of room for 2up and shaft drive is a bonus. If you like long 90mph+ motorway blasts, this isn't the bike for you.

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

A real jack-of-all-trades. The almost upright seating is very kind of the wrists in stop-start city traffic and just enough lean forward for 70mph to feel neutral against the wind. The front brake is incredibly strong and rear drum brake is very forgiving. This isn't a knee down bike, so bit unfair to judge against it. Choke lever is a bit fragile.

Engine 5 out of 5

How can 58bhp be a 5 star engine? It is what it is. Suzuki made this originally to compete with the Harley sportster and she wiped the floor with it. Over time SV650 took their middleweight vtwin place. Still has lots of character, with low an mid-range pull being very satisfying. It will rev to 8k and it does have a 4v per cylinder, but not as fun as riding the torque between 3k-6k rpm.

Reliability & build quality 4 out of 5

Rear shocks chrome is thin and corrodes quickly. Everything else is solid. Look after chromed plastic clocks or you'll get a spotty finish. Suzuki powerplant is a bit of a tractor, but smooth enough and will last forever.

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5

She gets mpg in the high 30s, so a bit thirsty, but similar to the vx800/vs800 engine she came from. If the parts are for the suzuki powerplant, it's cheap. If you damage a fairing or fuel tank, or speedo, good luck finding the bits. Shaft drive is a lot less headache than a chain. Insurance is low and exclusivity is high.

Equipment 3 out of 5

Only what you can strap onto it really. I've added heated grips, quad lock and cargo net over the pillion seat.

Buying experience: Can be a real bargain if the seller doesn't know what they have

4 out of 5 Real German alternative to BMW
22 September 2023 by NotAnRnineT

Year: 2003

Annual servicing cost: £170

A fantastic handling cruiser or slow sports bike depending on your perspective. Reminds me of the Honda NTV650 but with a modern retro feel.

Ride quality & brakes 4 out of 5

Twin discs are massive and 1 finger braking. Long flat saddle was great even after 3 hrs of city traffic. Motorways need a screen and engine is geared for legal speeds.

Engine 4 out of 5

It's slow compared to an SV650, but she's much prettier and no weight on the wrists. Pulls great out of corners and really suited to cities, A roads and B roads. Enjoyment drops over 80mph and hitting a ton is much more of an event, much like the ton-up boys in Ace Cafe's heyday.

Reliability & build quality 4 out of 5

Suzuki Intruder engine and shaft drive are immortal. No problems at all

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5

Great access all over the bike for home servicing. Averages 40mpg. About 120 miles before the reserve light comes on.

Equipment 3 out of 5

Luggage rack and main/center stand are hard to find. Plastic fuel tank limits tank bag choice. 17 inch wheels mean loads of tyre choice available. MPH Numbers are very small on the speedo, so I fitted a GPS bicycle computer to supplement it. Heated grips are never a bad I dea.

Buying experience: no problem, but hard to find a good one and very rare

4 out of 5 A wife not a mistress
23 January 2023 by SR800rider

Year: 2002

Annual servicing cost: £150

Perfect for Sunday rides or touring. A real roadster with retro touches, and nice alternative to a T100, w800, GT650 or other hipster favourites. More relaxed ride than a SV650 and prettier than many alternatives. Loads of stopping power. Neutral handling. Lighter than the reliable Suzuki Intruder it's based on. Pretty timeless looks. Low routine maintenance and doable at home.

Ride quality & brakes 4 out of 5

Great allrounder. More tourer than sports tourer. Best within speed limits. Lovely pull out of corners. Lots of lean (if you ever need it). Wide bars and upright seating make town riding easy. Long reach to wide bars, very comfy seat. Mid footrests a bit high, but not uncomfy. Plenty of room for pillion. Amazing feel and power from the front brakes.

Engine 4 out of 5

Sounds great once Pair Valve removed. Geared for speed limits, so above that gets buzzy but not annoying. Easy to service at home without bespoke tools. Choke lever feels fragile

Reliability & build quality 4 out of 5

Quite good. Getting on 20yrs old now, so the odd flasher/starter relay, side stand switch and radiator cap. Nothing major.

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5

Always gets about 40mpg. Speedo under reads by 2-3mph, even odometer (in KM) under reads by about 5 miles per 100. Shaft drive saves a lot of money compared to chains.

Equipment 3 out of 5

Simple or basic depending on your perspective. Seat an ergonomics are great for long sunday rides. The rare givi side pannier kit is invaluable, as is main stand, so shame not standard. Get a screen and heated grips and go anywhere. Underseat isn't a sealed box, so tools need their own little bag incase they fall past the carb's plumbing. No luggage hooks, but at least soft luggage won't burn on the low exhaust. No ABS, traction control or rider modes (God forbid you can't handle 58hp)

Buying experience: bought used private sale. no problem

4 out of 5 The bike that refused to be pigeonholed
09 December 2021 by Delboy241

Year: 2003

Annual servicing cost: £120

"Standard" bikes are seeing a renaissance: This is an unpretentious modern road machine from the same designers of the Suzuki Katana. A great base to customise too. This bike isn't playing top trumps with bhp and does a great job of being a jack of all trades. If you want a shaft drive v-twin, that is not a cruiser, competing models are Moto Guzzi Breva 750, Yamaha BT1100 and the ancient Suzuki VX800. This is a last hurrah for Sachs and the Hercules Motor Werkes factory in Nuremberg, with less than 1000 examples built, will appeal to speculative collectors.

Ride quality & brakes 4 out of 5

Non-adjustable front forks are never going to achieve 5 out of 5, and you will be disappointed if you ride public roads like a trackday. However it does tip into corners and brake really well. Comfort wise, low seat, high pegs and long reach suggest the bike is made for an orangutan, but in practice it makes sense for city and country roads.

Engine 4 out of 5

Fast, Cheap, Reliable: They say you can only pick 2. This is really reliable, full stop. Velocity is relative, so I'll just say it has 58hp and can do a touch more than 100mph. No screamer, the low and midrange is meaty. Sounds much better if you blank off the PAIR exhaust system (which is also the reason the exhaust gets hotter that you'd expect)

Reliability & build quality 4 out of 5

Made in Germany, so impeccable when new. Chrome holds out well, just light furring of fork lowers and spoke nipples after being left outside for years, so really good. This has traditional CV carbs, so take usual measures when leaving unridden for months. Common problem of slipping clutch is an easy fix with GSX1000 clutch springs. Otherwise totally reliable, just don't ignore oil level or changes.

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

The Suzuki based vs800 engine still have plentiful spares today. www.sachs-biker.de is handy for other bits. Sachs may be out of business, but many of their suppliers aren't. I purchased a Aprilia RS125 for the radiator cap, Reiju 50 for the indicator flasher relay and replaced the brake calipers with Brembo items (40mm) because the marzocchi forks are identical to some 90s Ducatis. Look after the fairings and tank, as they are unobtainable or you'll be scanning ebay and German sites for months piecing together a full set.

Equipment 4 out of 5

The optional (hen's teeth) Givi luggage system is cavernous. 17" wheels means lots of tyre choice, even if you want to throw TKC80 on there and turn it into a scrambler. The seat frankly excellent, with loads of room to move and deep padding. I'd consider adjusting handlebar to bring it closer or lower. The exhaust looks great as standard and is so robust it acts like a frame slider if you ever drop it (only the very end tip will be scratched). I've changed the headlight for a clear lens version.

Buying experience: Bought privately from a "born-again-biker". Typically, someone in their 50s-60s that now finds the bike too heavy for them or age/injury means they've given up riding. It was well looked after with low mileage. I got it for a bargain, but expected to pay around £3k (pre-covid)

4 out of 5 Superbike & Cruiser have a lovechild to save your licence
11 May 2021 by Delsan

Year: 2003

Annual servicing cost: £150

Today (2021) this compares well with Triumph Street, losing out by 6hp to the Triumph. Back in 2003 the litre bike and supersport war was raging, and perhaps the massive twin brake discs, upside down forks and twin 17" wheels promised more sporting potential than the engine could deliver. What it does it give you licence friendly frolics with a classic look. As they say "it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow"

Ride quality & brakes 4 out of 5

Twin 320mm front discs are at home on a superbike but very easy to modulate. Large rear drum brake is more than adequate and suits the retro style. The ride is nimble armchair rather than featherweight scalpel. If you're trying to bounce off the redine and get a knee down you've missed the point. Front suspension is not adjustable, but these 40mm marzocchi forks were standard fit for 90s Ducati 900s.

Engine 5 out of 5

This is not an SV650! The suzuki sourced 805cc lump from VS800 intruder is decades old and over 100k has been reported for other models. As a roadster, or cruiser it works well. Braaapping the low rev torque is great feeling and the noise through tunnels or built up areas is great. As a squid or sports tourer, look elsewhere. It will do 100mph (ish) but anything over 90mph isn't treating it with mechanical sympathy.

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

No news is good news. Like all bikes, don't leave it outside to weather. Stainless spokes, exhaust and thick paint serve their purpose. The rear chromed shocks are the only rust weakness, but most of these will need replacing by now anyway. These big v twins appreciate a strong battery. All the servicing items can be found cheaply because of the suzuki sourced power plant. Many have fitted taller GSX1100 clutch springs since the 70Nm torque will eventually makes the clutch slip early into its life. The suzuki intruder based engine originally produced 55Nm.

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

Obviously depends how much you ride, but if you ride the typical 3k miles a year for UK riders, you'll do an annual fluid & filter change and a 3 yearly tyre change. Shaft drive is a doddle compared to chains, with easy access for oil changes, clutch and even valve clearance checks (screw and locknut, no shims). Air filters are a pain to refit and the carbs (unique settings to this model) and their sync are equally frustrating. All doable for the home mechanic. Great owners club resource at http://www.sachs-biker.de/

Equipment 4 out of 5

Overall, the ability to own a classic looking bike with modern decent brakes/suspension/tyres and without replying on hoards of aging bespoke engineers is the main feature. The saddle is a couch. I wish I'd got a main stand. I managed to get the rare full Sachs pannier set, but they're just modified Givi E360n cases. Most sport touring rubber with outperform the bike's capabilities and Avon RoadRiders have been great. Also fitted heidenau k73 supermoto tyres for that slight scrambler look

Buying experience: Bought privately from an older gentleman who eventually found it too heavy to manhandle. This was in 2011 when axing of the Kawasaki w650 proved retro was yet to be fashionable.

4 out of 5 800 roadster
07 August 2009 by buzz49

ihave only had this bike 6 months (feb 09 till present aug 09)its got 25000 on the clock. i had to put a new clutch init and no help from the delers (useles) warenty.(jax of york).othr than that it is a comfey ride handels realy well stopers are fantastic.and i have just returned from 2weeks touring the peaks of europe in northen spain with no problems at all.its a good alyear use bike and totaly under rated.

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5
Engine 5 out of 5
Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5
Value vs rivals 5 out of 5
Equipment 4 out of 5
5 out of 5 Stunning Sachs
24 May 2008 by frankjames64

I've had mine for 18 months, so what it isn't the fastest 800cc machine out there but it's totally reliable and very usable. Yeah it does vibrate a bit at higher speeds but I like that, afterall I'm riding a motorcycle not driving a fucking mondeo.

Ride quality & brakes 4 out of 5
Engine 4 out of 5
Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5
Value vs rivals 4 out of 5
Equipment 4 out of 5
4 out of 5 Rare beast
03 July 2007 by richmaz

It's July 2007 and I'm surprised no one has commented on this bike to date. I've had mine for nearly 2 years now (it's actually a b-805). It's been totally reliable, has plenty of character, comfy, surprising capable of scratching and always a conversation piece (good not bad!!) Picked mine up for £4400 with 3X custom black paint job, but seen clearance bikes new going for little more than £3200 - now that's a bargain. If you're on a budget and want something a bit different but without the hassle (remember it has a Suzuki engine with sweet gearbox and shaft drive!)try and track one of these down.

Ride quality & brakes 3 out of 5
Engine 4 out of 5
Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5
Value vs rivals 5 out of 5
Equipment 3 out of 5
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