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Steve Farrell  says:

Motorcycles banned from bus lanes over other people’s crashes

Motorcyclists are to be booted out of bus lanes following a rise in cycle collisions, despite not being involved a single one.  A report on a trial of motorcycles sharing bus lanes with cycles in Ealing, London, says: “Whilst there were no direct collisions between a motorcycle and a pedal cycle, it is suggested that there must be a causal...

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TronBiker

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TronBiker says:

Disapointing Blow

 

Think my subject says it all.

Massive well done to all who fought on getting us there.

This is not fair

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TronBiker

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TronBiker says:

Disapointing Blow

 

Think my subject says it all.

Massive well done to all who fought on getting us there.

This is not fair

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PigOfDeath

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PigOfDeath says:

Cyclist view

As said below, please don't blame the cyclists for this.... I'm a biker and triathelete so I cycle a lot. Personally I would say that road bicycles SHOULD pay tax, MOT and have a brake light (all at proportional levels of cost) but that's not the issue here.

This is militants representing a group that don't want them and don't agree with them!

It is a blow to the motorcycling community but the best way to deal is meet and engage with the cyclists - after all we're all two wheelers - we have more in common with each other than with than with the X5 drivers or delivery vans that will cheerfully drive over your corpse to gain one car lenght in a jam!

Oh and London cyclists DEFINITELY do not represent normal cyclists - they have built in victim mentality...

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coxyjm

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coxyjm says:

seems to me...

That the cycling community in London are a bunch of Nazi's that only want their own kind in what they think belongs to them, bunch of tree hugging, salad eating, unwashed, left wing, National Socialists.

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guzzivee8

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guzzivee8 says:

Faz ~ Pity this wasn’t picked up by MCN earlier


A review of MCN forum shows that someone posted details of (what was then) proposed ban on 23rd December but nothing in MCN till 14th Jan.
If we’d heard about sooner there might have been a chance of some local lobbying to get it “called in” but thats now to late! :mad:

GV8
 

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Hamertoni

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Hamertoni says:

Statistics and damned lies

The argument seems to rest solely on the increase in accidents for cyclists and the apparant only change being the use of bus lanes by motorcycles. Surely those who are attempting a balanced view should have noticed there is a recession on and people tend to start using bicycles in recessions. usually these will be people who have not had much experience and are thus more prone to accidents.

I ride regularly in bus lanes and always avoid getting too close or too fast when passing cyclists because I know they are not as confident as I used to be when, for sixteen years, I rode 25 miles each day in London without any bus lanes for protection. I suspect that in fact bus lanes for cyclists are actually harmful to cyclists as they do not know how to ride when not in one. Certainly very few of them understand traffic lights and the need to stop at a red light.

Not sure who can address this very biased or misrepresented data on behalf of motorcyclists. the fact is if this is valid data then any coucnil who allows motorcyclists to use a bus lane is now under threat of being sued for any cyclsit who gets injured!

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RoadRashSpirit

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ehem

These people obviously spend more time being busy bodies then they actualy do on a pedal bike....maby they should take a break and actualy go and see what the roads are realy like. And just before they enter the public road where the bus lane paint is they should buy some road tax?????  hhm maby im just missing there point? or maby just maby...there true motivations are very different from the ones they tell the council about...maby some of them are in the council.....none of this would suprise most in our countrys democracy.

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guzzivee8

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guzzivee8 says:

Not quite Faz,

If you read the report http://forum.notobikeparkingtax.com/discuss/ealing-scraps-motorbikes-in-bus-lanes-trial-amid-road-safety-fears/?action=dlattach;attach=4763 you’ll see that (in common with any issue approved by a local authority “executive member”) the item was subject to still being "called in" by 10th January.

Unfortunately no one, including MCN(?) having picked that up that opportunity has now passed.

GV8
 

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taz_of_tazmania

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I blame the recession!

OBVIOUSLY cyclists are getting depressed with the current financial crisis and throwing themselves at cars to end it all! Either that or the eruptions from the Icelandic volcano disrupted lay lines which affected the cyclists sense of balance. Or maybe there were was an increase in cyclists on the roads... correction... an increase in people on bicycles on the roads. Cyclists, in my view, suggests a level of cycling competence distinctly lacking in the lemmings that I encounter on my East Midlands commute

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Fly by night

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Fly by night says:

Pot Holes

The odd thing is bus lanes are some of the worst places for pot holes so instead of it being motorcycles perhaps it is the damn pot holes they simply leave in the bus lanes that are causing cycles to collide, they swerve to avoid a pot hole and bam straight into the path of something else.

 

But hey it's much easier to blame motorcycles rather than fix the pot holes ain't it?

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