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Michael Neeves  says:

Do we need electronic rider aids? You decide.

Hi, it’s Michael Neeves, Senior Road tester here and I’m looking for willing volunteers to help me with a road test feature. I would like to invite a couple of you to try some bikes fitted with and without traction control and ABS, to see what you think of electronic rider aids. The bikes would include the 2012 R1, so only...

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  • Posted 3 years ago (17 November 2011 15:30)

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Nov 03

Posts: 470

kl595 says:


What a brilliant offer.

MCN should do this with other road tests too. Stick me down for a Speed Triple R test Neevesy.

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Jan 11

Posts: 8442

snev says:


even with all the aids, a rider still has the upper hand,..... it's called "The Brain" the Human Brain, when engaged, works quite well when danger is detected , but Health and safety is there just in case (for Dumb Asses).

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Jan 11

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snev says:

Mr Neeves

Having endured the many posts submitted by the notorious Gixercarl regarding the many advances in rider aids and in particular the BMW 1000RR I am led to the conclusion that HE is a stooge, an invention of MCN'S Imagination, An employee of MCN, A Bloke called Reg from Twatstible in Kent who likes Lycra or more than likely is just a COCK. With a very small c.

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Sep 09

Posts: 406


So MCN want to do an off road control test to show how electronic rider aids make riding safer.

Playing right into the Eurocrats hands hey ?

The answer is no, fuck off.

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Feb 09

Posts: 8

bloodhand says:

In a word NO. Stop sanitizing our passion. Its man and machine not man in conjunction with machine.

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Nov 11

Posts: 3

no we don't especially traction control optional ABS is ok

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Feb 10

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robsot says:


Buy pre 2005.. fuck electronics!

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Aug 02

Posts: 69

I've said before on lots of occasions and on more than this forum, but the relentless chase of race inspired road bikes is a fruitless exercise. No one needs all the techno stuff on a motorcycle unless you happen to be chasing an ultimate lap time. We seeing en ever increasing number of naked streetfighter style bikes and "advetnure" bikes as the superbikes become more and more out of reach of the common rider both cost wise and ride-ability - It's one reason why Triumph's sales have improved so much. less race focused mean better bikes for everyone. No one - however much of a hero they imagine they are will ever use anything like the potential of an RSV4 APRC, Panigale or BMW1000RR. As such they become nothing more than a pub car park pose. MCN continues to test these bikes at foreign race tracks and delight in informing the reader of their utter brilliance, but we need manufacturers to step away from building a bike that can win races and build bikes we can use in the real world.

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Lightning Boy


Mar 07

Posts: 82

Learn to ride better

I have traction control and ABS, its my right hand. If conditions are slippery, I slow down.

I firmly believe that these rider aids are unnecessary and that riders would benefit from honing their skills, rather than relying on electronics. If you need traction control to get all the power down, chances are you're trying to put too much power down for the conditions. In essence, you are a poor rider. Go and take some lessons.

To learn some traction skills, ride through the winter and learn how to handle your bike.

For older riders returning to bikes after a long time out, please, please dont buy an R1 or anything like it. Your death will only increase the likelihood of draconian anti-biking measures. Re-learn your skills on something unthreatening and build up to the superbike you dream of.

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Jan 09

Posts: 158


I suppose those of us who say "no" will be classed as luddites, but my concern is that additional electronic aids=additional initial expense=additional complication=additional service costs further down the ownership line, ie for most of us who cannot afford ( or are unwilling to pay) upwards of £12k for a bike, but inhabit the "previously cherished" part of the market!

I'll go along with switchable ABS, but as for the rest, I think that buyers in the used market might be quite wary of possible expensive running costs and vote with their wallets, which could make technology-rich bikes difficult to sell in this sector.

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