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Poll: Is the new Norton really a Norton?

The front page of this week's MCN proudly reveals Norton's new V4 race bike, and the story inside explains how Norton went from a blank sheet of paper to running race bike in six weeks. It's an astonishing feat, but skeptics are already questioning whether the bike is a true Norton, given that its engine is from an Aprilia and the...

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supermario

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supermario says:

How can it possibly be a Norton

Aprillia made the engine and presumably the electronics to go with it. Spondon made the frame and swingarm, then you probably have Ohlins for the forks and rear shock, then maybe Marchesini for the wheels and someone like Brembo for the brakes. Aside from bolting the constituent parts together, what have Norton actually contributed to this bike? The tank and slightly shonky fairing?

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jollyboy

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jollyboy says:

b6nus

As ironclad pointed out those bikes were, appart from the engine, built by their stated manufacturer. There is, however, a more important reason why this bike is not a Norton. This company has nothing other than the name in common with the Norton of old.

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maxiscooter

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maxiscooter says:

It's just badge engineering

Most car manufacturers have been doing this for years and the new MG is produced in the same way as the Norton.

Paiggio are probably the best example in the bike industry. A Gilera is just a Piaggio with a different logo. BMW's new scooter the C600 has an engine built by KYMCO but it doesn't make it any less a BMW.

With Norton, it seems to be a heretical use of a long established and much loved brand and to me it won't be a 'true' Norton in the same way that a Triumph is. As long as people are aware of the facts there's no harm in this branding exercise.

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

Spondon frame and Aprilia engine? You may as well call it a Honda. Makes as much sense.

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v1nn1e

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v1nn1e says:

Norton engine?

Didn't MCN run a piece, shortly after the MotoGP CRT rules were announced, about Norton designing their own V4?

Is that project still alive or did they can it as too expensive?

Is this machine going to become the basis for a MotoGP CRT bike?

 

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Adeninja

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Adeninja says:

norton

well it may not have Norton engine in it but Norton is only a small company which own Spondon as well , so its a nice easy way back into racing using an Aprillia v4 engine , to me its a cheap way to get Norton back racing and fair play , at the end of the day it can only help Norton with there roads bikes , and in time maybe they can make there own engine , all i say is put some lights on it and sell for the road at 12,000 grand and you be on to a winner , and call it NORTON SG

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mrbikeless

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mrbikeless says:

Its a Norton. It says so on the tank.. Support them guys, they are small and have a challenge ahead. So what if is has bits of this and that? SEAT are VW's, Polos are Yeti's, Jags were Mondeos, Volvos are Fords.... Smell the coffee it's commercial reality. Norton should be applauded for having balls. ps call some thing like The Wraith.

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STRESSED1

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STRESSED1 says:

Read all about it.......

When is a Norton not a Norton:unsure:.......when it is made in BLITAIN... :lol: This NEW Norton has a Spondon made frame,APRILIA RSV4 engine so many would and quite rightly,to a purists point of view that is, say, it isn't strictly a NORTON. However,look to BIMOTA with donor engines-parts and even Kawasaki with the Suzuki V-Strom masquerading as the KLV 1000,the Suzuki Marauder 1600,loking suspiciously like the Kawasaki Mean Streak,the APRILIA RS250 with RGV 250 Suzuki engine,to boot then,i would say,if Norton can eventually produce its own engine,in the short term,what harm is there?If the Aprilia engine had Norton's own cases, heads and is tuned by them then all the better.:blink:

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mick998

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mick998 says:

NORTON OR NOT

Spot on Mate.:biggrin:Alright lets look at the what ifs, if it sounds better,if it goes faster and handles better,than the other rsv s in the race then who is it down to?
Norton and thats what it says on the tin full stop.
Then they may start selling them create employment make money and solve the cooling problems on the best piece of kit ever to hit the track The ROTARY

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

STRESSED1 and mrbikeless are correct in what they say. However in the case of the cars such as Seat (I have one) only the running gear is VW, Seat manufacture the body. Jags have been using Ford floor pans and so on. Aprilia did use the Suzuki engine but built the chassis. Bimota usually include the engine manufaturers name in the bikes name in some way e.g. Bimota Suzuki, Bimota DB1 (Ducati). The Kawasaki KLV was a re-badge but its very unusual and there was some cycle parts that were different. As I understand it, the only part of this new 'Norton' made by them is the tank badge although they probably have sub contracters to make those. I'm waiting with bated breath to hear Stuart Garners explanation for all this because I'm sure he must have been aware that all this would come out and its not too impressive for this so-called Norton resurrection. Norton purists must be appalled.

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