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Steve Farrell  says:

£100 fines for speeding and driving on the phone

Fines for speeding and using a hand-held mobile phone while driving will rise from £60 to £100 under Government plans. Drivers who hog the middle motorway lane or tailgate also face £100 fines with the introduction of a new fixed penalty for careless driving. Transport minister Stephen Hammond said: "Careless drivers are a menace and their negligence puts innocent people's...

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likesitfast

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likesitfast says:

including speeding

This is all well and good but the speed camera vans can't pull drivers on their phones!!!!!!

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Fomancu

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Fomancu says:

but wheres the determent?

.For April to September...perhaps Kent..Surrey and Sussex Police could put their unmarked motorcycles to a more...dare I say.."constructive" use? After all...in the highly unlikely event of a marked Traffic car be seen on patrol on any of the South East M and A roads...drivers by nature wont commit these offences.( facepalm)

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spondonste

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spondonste says:

Not even close

Driving whilst on a hand held phone has catagorically been shown to be between 3 to 6 times WORSE than driving just over the drink drive limit. To link it in with exceeding a posted speed limit on a deserted road or lane hogging on a deserted motorway is farsical. Drink driving is an automatic ban so since driving whilst on the phone causes more degredation in drivers ability it should be fined AT LEAST as severely as drink driving.

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Lord's sake, Steve, please don't just regurgitate the press release

The headine should be: "Speed Tax to rise to £100, motorists to be lasered at cashpoints, and chip-and-pin readers installed in Plodmobiles."

The rest of it is "of course, we'll only tax other drivers" spin to distract from that issue.  There are no new offences being proposed, just more efficient revenue collection for existing ones.

Thing is, the time we see coppers on the roads is when they're on a emergency call to restock the doughnut bin, or lurking in rural hedges to laser themselves a nice string of candidates for the Speed Awareness Course run by the Chief Constable's brother-in-law.

That isn't going to change, as Hammond knows fine well, so he can go ahead and bring in the death penalty for tailgating for all the practical difference it will make.

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Vortex52

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Vortex52 says:

2 Laws

Well if bad driving should be punished the police car on the A3 rush hour this morning was in the center lane doing 50mph flashing lights, holding everybody up for no reason whatsoever, the queues where forming for more than a mile until he decided he had enough of fun, turned the lights of and exited at Surbiton! Is that a fine exemple that they have the power to do whateve they want! with or without you!

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tobytruck

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tobytruck says:

That is why we are making it easier for the police to tackle problem drivers by allowing them to immediately issue a fixed penalty notice rather than needing to take every offender to court!!! Just need some police officers out on the road now!!!

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

About bloody time!!!

But are we going to see officers on patrol actually enforcing these new laws? And if we are now following the continental approach of on-the-spot fines, what if the person can't pay? Will the car be towed away/clamped etc? Or will the police think 'I can't be arsed' and let them off with a verbal warning? I'd like to hear more details how these laws will work.

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Oi! There are no new laws.

FPN bribes are going up, Careless and Inconsiderate can be sanctioned by FPN. FPN bribes can be paid at the roadside (although I doubt this will happen - what about surrendering licenses for endorsement). That's it. No new offences, no new powers to compel, no changes to policing.

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cousinbillybob

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Vortex52 - perhaps if you ask Surrey Police why they did a rolling road to slow the traffic down, they might tell you. Had it ever occurred to you that something had happened ahead (which you couldn't see), and they slowed the traffic down so the average member of public didn't go barrelling down the road and into it....? By doing that the police ahead could clear the obstruction whilst still keeping the traffic moving... I think it's a case of get your facts first before you slag the police off.

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blue200tdi

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blue200tdi says:

by allowing them to immediately issue a fixed penalty notice

Clearly NOT on the spot fines although they do exist for foreign drivers.

It is about time these idiots that drive in the third lane of a four lane motorway are made to move the heck over!!! Billions are spent widening the motorways only for these idiots to turn them into a two lane motorway because they can't be arrised to move over! Coaches and cars with trailers are not allowed in the outside lane af a three lane motorway, how do they legally overtake a muppet in the middle lane doing 55MPH?

Maybe they should make it legal to undertake? That would cure the problem in one go, although they wouldn't make money from that idea! And who is going to enforce these new laws? The AA? I regularly drive from Lincoln to Kent and never even see a police car let alone a traffic car.

Pointless waste of time and money these new ideas they have. How many meetings and 'thinktanks' do they need to come up with these stupid ideas? I bet in the end it will cost more to implement than they actually raise from it!

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