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Matthew Birt  says:

Casey Stoner impressed with new Honda production bike

Casey Stoner has given HRC positive feedback on the new production RCV1000R racer that Scott Redding will campaign in the 2014 MotoGP world championship. The Aussie got his first chance to assess the new production bike during a third successive test in Japan that was severely disrupted by poor weather. Since undertaking a surprise new role as HRC test rider, the double...

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glm7354

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glm7354 says:

 Anyone know if Honda use less than 12 engines per season.It's true that Aprilia's engine is off after the race?

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CH987

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CH987 says:

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Sylvain Guintoli's pole time at Laguna was 1'22.683. That would of been good enough to put him through Q1 and 12th on the Motogp grid. The only CRT faster was Espargaro. If you put Guintoli on Bridgestones how much faster would he go? Easily faster than Espagaro and he would of only needed to gain 0.7sec to of put him 8th on the motogp grid . What's the point of CRTs again?

If you link this to the Nicky Hayden comments elsewhere, if there is 5 of these Production Hondas on the grid next year then Ducati will struggle to get any bikes out of Q1.

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bluehaze60

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bluehaze60 says:

Why stoner ?

 Why is stoner testing the current factory bike?, I can understand him testing the production version, is there something missing that Marquez & pedrosa can't find ?

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trailler

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trailler says:

Stoner

Is to make a come back at ozz motogp .

1 off race as far as I know.

As for mm , he ( I hope this dosent happen ) is going to have a big big off if he dosent calm down , or mm is going to couse a nasty pile up between some riders and himself.

JL let him past at the last race , not a good sign I say.

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

GUINTOLI, CRT’S & BRIDGESTONES ...

You won’t get any debate with me as to the CRT’s, CH97. This was yet another Dorna/Ezpeleta brain fart “inflicted” on peak-level GP racing – along with Moto 2 bikes that, engine-wise, are a far lower spec & less powerful than their first cousins in 600cc WSS.
 

Some other comments, knowing the proclivity of so many MCN readers to immediately jump to incorrect quantum conclusions. Let’s disabuse them of their often serially wrong ideas?
 

Sylvain Guintoli is a fine rider but has had his time in the GP sun – 6 years in 250cc GP & then 2007 (Tech Trois Yamaha) & 2008 (Pramac Ducati) in MotoGP – historical fact. Nothing personal, but a best result of 6th in Germany in 2008 partly explains why he didn’t get a contract renewal & went BSB in 2009. At one circuit where he was struggling on the Desmo, he was shown Casey Stoner’s comparative Desmo data & pronounced this as simply “Unbelievable!”
 

His BSB career suffered with injury aftermath from Josh Brookes’ collision @ Donington. Incidentally, this was serially & savagely misreported, even Wikipedia still hasn’t corrected the record, but it is excellent many more people are now truly aware of what “really happened” in this incident. Politics, marketing & corporate pride produce twisted values at times - blaming the individual & not the machinery or mechanical fettling of same ...
 

Anyone following my posts over the last 4+years would be aware that I was in the Team that conceived, created, started & ran WSBK. I have oft-complained the concept was NOT to see teams having to lob-up with 1 Million pound + machinery to be competitive – then have that 2nd bike & huge raft of spares etc. Insanity! That WSBK specs are to be more akin to an elevated form of Super-Stock is far more truly in-tune with the original concept & intention – as dreamed & realised by Steve McLaughlin & all else involved.
 

CRT was a “political sop” playing on fond recall of F1 bikes past – tuned motors in bespoke frames etc - these “hybrids” are simply not up to modern full-on factory machinery. Dorna should have tried to “induce” MMSA to produce “production racers” along the lines of HRC’s V-Twin NSR500V raced 1996 – 2001 & good enough to Win some circuits & create merry hell @ others for the V4 full factory jobs.

Great to see HRC showing such initiative & ability with their latest “take” on the subject. What a supreme luxury to have Stoner as Tester who can “push” HRC’s creations to the very limit & far harder than any mere mortal can. No wonder Marquez is a very happy camper just now!
 

One last point, CH97: be very careful indeed even hypothesising on WSBK V MotoGP tyres. Over & over again, history has shown that the “radical build carcase stiffness & feel” differences between these have “ambushed” many an aspiring SBK rider’s step-up to GP. Throw Bridgestones on SG’s Aprilia & he would very likely immediately LOSE 2+ seconds per Lap while his bike chatters, twists & bucks – so it ‘aint necessarily so. Cheers
 

PS: Trailler – absolute rubbish. “Parade Lap” only for Stoner with Gardner & Doohan!
 

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redracer46

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redracer46 says:

The old proverb....

They say you dont know you youve got till its gone.... and with Casey that was certainly true. Long did he go unappreciated by the masses when he was in motogp (shamedly myself included) then left the sport and actually left a void. I would relish the opportunity to see him back in the paddock ripping it up with the fast 5...

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AlexDAbomB69

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AlexDAbomB69 says:

Scott Smart

 Said on the BBC's coverage that the Bridgestone tyre is a nightmare and chatters alot and that you just dont get that with the Pirelli.

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

Scott smart

 Oh yer and does the rest of the paddock think so?

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Bluehaze...

"Why is stoner testing the current factory bike?"


Because he needs to know how close the production bike is to measure its competitiveness. That &, as Honda know he's one of the fastest riders on the planet,  they're paying him a shed load to test so they may as well get their money's worth & get some feedback on both bikes.

Stoner -"We started with the current RCV, trying to find a base setting and then work from there"

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Aquarius

I expect any Ducati desmo rider being shown Stoners data would say it was 'unbelievable' given the comparative performances of all other desmo riders.

With reference to the original concept of WSBK - the reason we got to where we are now with cost would be because of each teams desire to win therefore technical development and innovation is a natural process.   Not saying that is right - it's just the way it is.

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